H4895 and IMR4895

Nature Boy · Sep 20, 2019

Look at it another way in the most extreme sense.

Let’s say you try it, and it proves to be safe, AND it turns out the be the most accurate load you’ve ever shot. Just stacks the bullets, one on top of each other.

Now, once you use up that 2lbs you’ll will be driving yourself nuts trying to recreate that magic mix, never coming close. After years of trying, you’ll eventually go to meet your maker, broken and frustrated, and ask The Almighty, “what was I missing? What should I have done?”

And He will reply, “you should have burned that 2lbs”

Walkalong · Sep 20, 2019

Nature Boy said:
Let’s say you try it, and it proves to be safe, AND it turns out the be the most accurate load you’ve ever shot. Just stacks the bullets, one on top of each other.

Now, once you use up that 2lbs you’ll will be driving yourself nuts trying to recreate that magic mix, never coming close.

Yep.

1KPerDay · Sep 20, 2019

Get some good tweezers and separate the grains of powder back into black and gray. It's the only logical choice. Hope your glasses prescription is up to date!

horsey300 · Sep 20, 2019

Nature Boy said:
Look at it another way in the most extreme sense.

Let’s say you try it, and it proves to be safe, AND it turns out the be the most accurate load you’ve ever shot. Just stacks the bullets, one on top of each other.

Now, once you use up that 2lbs you’ll will be driving yourself nuts trying to recreate that magic mix, never coming close. After years of trying, you’ll eventually go to meet your maker, broken and frustrated, and ask The Almighty, “what was I missing? What should I have done?”

And He will reply, “you should have burned that 2lbs”

I needed to like this twice, it is the epitome of the secret to life.

Metal God · Sep 21, 2019

Here's my thought , If you're the type to be ok with mixing some unknown powders and working up a load . Why did you break them down in the first place . You're a rebel , you should have just shot the loads your buddy loaded . It's interesting seeing where guys draw there lines of safety .

Although this does seem like a perfect example as to why you never shoot other guys reloads lol

Scooter22 · Sep 21, 2019

Metal God said:
Here's my thought , If you're the type to be ok with mixing some unknown powders and working up a load . Why did you break them down in the first place . You're a rebel , you should have just shot the loads your buddy loaded . It's interesting seeing where guys draw there lines of safety .

Although this does seem like a perfect example as to why you never shoot other guys reloads lol

I draw the line where a bang could become a BOOM!

303 British · Sep 22, 2019

Ok, Thanks for the reply!

I will burn the powder and just get something newer.

To some of you, you did NOT evidently read the WHOLE message I wrote!!! I did NOT try and fire this loads I got the powder from due to having to knock out the Powder with a "Hammer" type bullet puller, it was that compressed in the case! A 168 Gr ,.30 Cal AP bullet is about 1/4-inch longer that a 150 Gr 7.62x51mm NATO bullet (AP or Ball), the LOAD was correct for a 168 Gr. 7.62 Load, just the bullet was WAY to long.

I would have just used up this "old" powder and NOT tried to duplicate it when it was gone! That was the whole idea of asking the question in the first place.

I have no idea how he could have fired it in his rifles and NOT blown one of them up!!!!!

I WILL NOT USE THE POWDER, just pore it on the lawn!!!

Thanks for all the Replies, it was good to hear from all.

Chuck
Carson City
Nevada

Metal God · Sep 23, 2019

303 British said:
A 168 Gr ,.30 Cal AP bullet is about 1/4-inch longer

The ones I have and load with are 162 to 163gr . They are longer with a much longer baring surface then most 165gr-ish rifle bullets that are not for the 30-30 and or flat point bullets .

The interesting thing about mine is they are not all from the same manufacture even though I was told they were pulled from the same belts

I'd check and see if you have the same issue . If so and have enough of them I'd separate them into lots of the same bullets or at least what appear to be the same bullets . They'll likely load and shoot more consistently that way .

Metal God · Sep 23, 2019

303 British said:
but it was a load of either IMR4895 OR H4895 OR what looks like some of BOTH!! The load was 41.2 gr. with a .30 cal 168 Gr AP bullet.

So I got to thinking that load would not be all that compressed . This had me go test it my self with IMR-4895 with out a drop tube .

This is 41.3gr which came up to the middle of the shoulder

This is how deep the 162gr AP bullet seats and a 168gr BTHP seats at a COAL of 2.800

so yes that charge is pretty compressed . However I would need to seat the AP bullet another .075 deeper to get the canelure to the case mouth . That would make this round very compressed . Thank god I use ball powder or very short stick powders when loading my AP bullets . I know I'm not overly compressed with my loads .

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