Remington R51

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Mr. Mosin

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Consensus on the re-released R51's ? I know the original run was so bad, Remington recalled them. I like the idea behind this gun. Supposedly soft shooting, grip safety, ambidextrous mag release, SAO, and 9mm. I don't particularly mind that it's a pain in the rear to field strip and re-assemble; but I want to know about it's reliability and longevity (in regards to the aluminum frame).
 
I like the R51. It’s a soft shooter and like the single action hammer fired system. Only issue I’ve had is that it can be picky with hollow points. Ones with a small nose like Hornady XTP and Critical Defense work well.
 
I like the R51. It’s a soft shooter and like the single action hammer fired system. Only issue I’ve had is that it can be picky with hollow points. Ones with a small nose like Hornady XTP and Critical Defense work well.

Aye. Just discovered that Remington has discontinued the R51... how sad.
 
... but I want to know about it's reliability and longevity (in regards to the aluminum frame).

The Beretta 92 and the SIG P226 both have aluminum frames; neither of those renowned models have had reliability or longevity issues related to their frame material.

You can be sure that if there was any rapid degradation of the R51's frame, it would have been trumpeted loudly and widely by now.
 
I have an R51 bought it for $200 on Palmetto. I haven’t had any problems with mine albeit that I only have a few hundred rounds through it. But it shoots well and is made well, it feels like quality to me.

My only criticism thus far is that on each side of the grip safety the edges of the channel can grate on my hands a little. It’s not terrible but is noticeable.

I didn’t realize they discontinued them. May need to pick up a few extra magazines.
 
The Beretta 92 and the SIG P226 both have aluminum frames; neither of those renowned models have had reliability or longevity issues related to their frame material.

You can be sure that if there was any rapid degradation of the R51's frame, it would have been trumpeted loudly and widely by now.
Along with every other issue it has had, correct ?
 
Out of the thousands of other guns out there what is the draw of any Remington handgun?? It' nice looking but I myself would have no interest in it.

Whatever floats your boat.:)
 
Out of the thousands of other guns out there what is the draw of any Remington handgun?? It' nice looking but I myself would have no interest in it.

Whatever floats your boat.:)

Valid argument.

My thoughts were, it a new take on an old design and it was $200. I will say I was impressed with the feel and quality it appears. Notice I didn’t say reliability as I cannot comment on that as I haven’t shot mine a lot. But it was money well spent for me as I got to try out a different design for little money.
 
Out of the thousands of other guns out there what is the draw of any Remington handgun?? It' nice looking but I myself would have no interest in it.

Whatever floats your boat.:)

It is wholly unique in today's firearm market. If only Remington had done a better job on it. How's their RM380's ?
 
Along with every other issue it has had, correct ?
After the introductory fiasco, the knives were out for any flaw in the re-introduced pistol. I would personally not buy one of the guns made with reworked frames and slides from the original Charlotte production, but I have not read bad reports on the Huntsville guns. People just seem to have a difficult time getting over their initial impression of a product.
I don't particularly mind that it's a pain in the rear to field strip and re-assemble ...
Once the original R51s were shown to have problems, people got silly trying to demonstrate other issues with the gun. Here is a video of how terribly difficult it is (not) to reassemble an R51.
Aye. Just discovered that Remington has discontinued the R51... how sad.
The R51 is still on Remington's website and Remington has made no announcement, in spite of many, many months of speculation and scuttlebutt that it has been discontinued.
How's their RM380's ?
The RM380 is excellent, with an American mag release and better recoil springs compared to the original thousand-dollar Rohrbaugh design.
 
Supposedly the jamming problems were related to tolerance stacking issues during assembly and bent/warped magazine feed lips. Both problems appear to have largely been fixed, though I would perform extensive testing with any particular magazine before carrying the gun for SD.

As far as longetivity.......the fact that the steel breech block works against the aluminum locking shelf doesnt make me warm and fuzzy about the design.

Being the proud owner of an original Remington Model 51, I was super stoked about these when they were first announced- but after having handled one and followed the forums about them, Im gonna pass.
 
The Beretta 92 and the SIG P226 both have aluminum frames; neither of those renowned models have had reliability or longevity issues related to their frame material.

You can be sure that if there was any rapid degradation of the R51's frame, it would have been trumpeted loudly and widely by now.
The P226 barrel cams down against the steel frame insert- but yes they can suffer from guide rail splitting if not properly greased on high mileage examples.

The early Walther P1s had frame peening problems due to the locking block bearing on an aluminum shelf. Thats why later production guns had the steel hex bolt installed.

R51 frame locking shelf after 200 rounds (granted, break-in)-
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Ugh......
 
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It is wholly unique in today's firearm market. If only Remington had done a better job on it. How's their RM380's ?


I had both of the ORIGINAL Rohrbaugh 380 and the Stealth 9mm. Finally crafted, ultra cool, very expensive pieces of crap! Back to the factory several times still junk sold them!

Don't get me started!

I doubt Marlington Remlington improved them. but hey who knows!??
 
It is wholly unique in today's firearm market. If only Remington had done a better job on it. How's their RM380's ?

Yes, they are unique and no doubt slick looking but I would rather pay for reliable and good customer service myself.
There are so many slim single stacked 9mm and 380s out there. It sits in my pocket no one sees it.:)

But for around $250 take a chance.

 
The P226 barrel cams down against the steel frame insert- but yes they can suffer from guide rail splitting if not properly greased on high mileage examples.

The early Walther P1s had frame peening problems due to the locking block bearing on an aluminum shelf. Thats why later production guns had the steel hex bolt installed.

R51 frame locking shelf after 200 rounds (granted, break-in)-
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Ugh......
Looks like that one was lubed with sand. Mine has some paint scraped off but doesn’t look that bad. I do like to run it wet because of all the contact surfaces.
 
The P226 barrel cams down against the steel frame insert- but yes they can suffer from guide rail splitting if not properly greased on high mileage examples.

The early Walther P1s had frame peening problems due to the locking block bearing on an aluminum shelf. Thats why later production guns had the steel hex bolt installed.

R51 frame locking shelf after 200 rounds (granted, break-in)-
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Ugh......
Good Lord, man! What were using as lubricant 320 grit grinding compound?

Mine after 200 rounds (in one range trip).

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Looks like that one was lubed with sand. Mine has some paint scraped off but doesn’t look that bad. I do like to run it wet because of all the contact surfaces.

Good Lord, man! What were using as lubricant 320 grit grinding compound?

Mine after 200 rounds (in one range trip).

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The fella who posted that pic said he shot the gun straight out of the box, without lubing first. His was a 2014 production gun, so that could have been the result of a mis-fitted breech module or other dimensional problem with the frame.
 
I bought the gun, and ammo, cleaned and lubed it and went to town with it.

I will add that the accuracy I got out of the R51 is not as good as a 100 year old Remington Model 51, but reliability-wise, I'm satisfied. With 200 rounds of Federal 115 grain ball in one session in the two supplied magazines, every single one when 'bang', ejected, and reloaded.

Oh, and I did shoot a magazine or two of Winchester 147 JHPs, also with no problems.
 
Depends. I bought one of the recent ones because they were basically clearing them out dirt cheap at like $215. As someone who is interested in unique pistol locking mechanisms, to me it was worth it as a novelty. It feels nice, but I'll admit that I haven't actually fired it as of yet.

My position would be as a cheap curiosity, heck yes go for it. As a gun I'd carry and use for a specific purpose? Probably not. Given the general track record of the model I'd have to THOROUGHLY test it before I'd trust one, and I likely wouldn't take the gamble on a gun that I needed.
 
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