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There a some jacketed bullets that are just as cheap as the coated/plated ones. Like rose distributors. But for what you ask I'd go with rmr.

JO JO said:

well I am needing to order some 44 bullets ran out of my acme 240gr swc and want to give rnfp a try I am looking at
the RMR plated 240gr rnfp and the Missouri 240gr smasher looks like a rnfp coated any opinion on these two ?
RMR is thick plated and Missouri is coated lead , will be used for target/plinking ranging from 1000 to 1150 fps
Thanks

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I recently bought 500 of Missouri's 44 Keith in Hi-Tek and I'm getting leading from them in my Super Redhawk (yes...I know they're coated). I cannot figure out what the deal is. I have run a ton of their softer 44 special cowboy bullets up to about 1K FPS in 44 spcl and had zero issues with them.

troy fairweather said:

There a some jacketed bullets that are just as cheap as the coated/plated ones. Like rose distributors. But for what you ask I'd go with rmr.

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I had to look them up. Are you talking about these here:

http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchan...D&Product_Code=R177-A&Category_Code=ZBJ-44MAG

$137/1000 is a screaming deal for SJSP.

I'm not a fan of plated bullets. I've tried about 1,000 and have found them to be of no benefit to me over my cast bullets, and seem to pose unnecessary problems for new reloaders. There's nothing wrong with the Acme SWC bullets and I like the little wooden boxes. I don't often buy cast bullets either lubed or PCed, but when I do it's usually from Acme. Missouri is a known quality caster and I've read no complaints about their bullet. For about 12 years I have been using mostly RNFP bullets in my 44s (I have two Ranch Dog molds, one 240 gr, and the other 265 gr.). I have 5, 44 Magnums and the RNFP is as accurate as any cast bullet and feeds well in my lever gun. While I don't hunt anymore the big flat meplat delivers good tissue destruction and good penetration...

JO JO said:

well I am needing to order some 44 bullets ran out of my acme 240gr swc and want to give rnfp a try I am looking at
the RMR plated 240gr rnfp and the Missouri 240gr smasher looks like a rnfp coated any opinion on these two ?
RMR is thick plated and Missouri is coated lead , will be used for target/plinking ranging from 1000 to 1150 fps
Thanks

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I run the 240 Keith style from MBC in my .44 gp100 and .44 mag sbh.
the gp100 leads a bit at just under 1kfps, the sbh does not at 1450.

my buddy runs the RMRs in his .357 and I run them in my 9mm, honestly I think you'll be happy with which ever you chose.

Typetwelve said:

I had to look them up. Are you talking about these here:

http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchan...D&Product_Code=R177-A&Category_Code=ZBJ-44MAG

$137/1000 is a screaming deal for SJSP.

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Those are my preferred 44mag bullets.

Typetwelve said:

I recently bought 500 of Missouri's 44 Keith in Hi-Tek and I'm getting leading from them in my Super Redhawk (yes...I know they're coated). I cannot figure out what the deal is. I have run a ton of their softer 44 special cowboy bullets up to about 1K FPS in 44 spcl and had zero issues with them.



I had to look them up. Are you talking about these here:

http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchan...D&Product_Code=R177-A&Category_Code=ZBJ-44MAG

$137/1000 is a screaming deal for SJSP.

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Ya that's them they shot good in the 44s I used them in. Did great on deer to. Hard to beat for the money.

Sjsp all I shoot. Keeps bore clean. Hits like ton of bricks.

I tacked on 2000 rmr 240gr RNFP plated a few orders back. I've run them from 1000fps right up to 1300 without issue and extremely accurate out of my sw 629 classic. Just range usage and I enjoy them

I see no benefit in plated bullets with the exception that some ranges will let plated pass as lead free. I am a huge fan of Missouri products. I use several different ones in my 38/357 and lie the SWC for my 44 mag. Just tried some of the 240gr Smashers as well as the 300gr Hammers. The Smasher was more accurate for me than the SWC but not a great deal more, but the Hammer is a beast. Put it in front of about 19gr of H110 and shoot some steel plates at 50 yards! What a load for Hog or bear! They don't shoot as accurate in my model 29 as the SWC or Smasher, but certainly accurate enough to hunt with at realistic ranges. I want to try to find some data so I can load up a few of the 300gr Hammers for my 3" 44 spl. I bet it would make a great SD load. It just looks bad ass.

I've had great results with MBC. The 240 grain smashers are extremely accurate and I get no leading in my Blackhawk.

I'd do both to see which is more accurate in my gun.

9.2 grains Unique 1.587oal 240grain RMR RNFP 240gr Plated FPS 978 average of five shots.

That is from my notes. Still have some loaded up and can reconfirm measurement if you wish.

JO JO said:

did they lead up your barrel much ?

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No leading at all. I know some people have, but I've never had any leading from Hytek Coated bullets. Most I've shot came from Missouri and SNS and I have used a couple thousand from Summers Enterprise. Most of my shooting is around 1000fps with several revolvers that I shoot steel plates at 75-100 yards. My hunting loads I shoot in my 8 3/8" and 7" Model 686 and a 8 3/8" Model 29. I've jacked up my hunting loads to max loads listed with jacketed bullets and never had a problem with any. I've also run a good many of the max loads through my Rossi lever action and no leading there either. I'm certainly no expert, but I think the leading some people see is caused by the bullet not matching the barrel diameter and maybe I've been lucky. Another load I like is the 185gr Lead HP from GT bullets. It is non coated and I can run it through my 8 3/8" 686 at close to 1300 fps and don't get any noticeable leading until I've shot at least 20-25 rounds. It is a great round for deer, but too soft for hogs. I use Mostly H110 for my max loads and on occasion will use some 2400 but I've never seen powder have any affect on leading. I think Missouri and SNS both size the same, but you may want to find another brand that is sized different and see if it helps the leading problem

What I have found when reloading .44 magnum is, that most quality jacketed bullets from reputable manufactures shoot relatively the same as for accuracy. Most 240 grainers take the exact same powder charge to send them downrange at the same relative velocity. For the most part, while I do have some bullets I prefer for deer size game, especially from the carbines, I buy bulk .44s when I find good price.

Typetwelve said:

I recently bought 500 of Missouri's 44 Keith in Hi-Tek and I'm getting leading from them in my Super Redhawk (yes...I know they're coated). I cannot figure out what the deal is. I have run a ton of their softer 44 special cowboy bullets up to about 1K FPS in 44 spcl and had zero issues with them.



I had to look them up. Are you talking about these here:

http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchan...D&Product_Code=R177-A&Category_Code=ZBJ-44MAG

$137/1000 is a screaming deal for SJSP.

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Same here on bad barrel deposits, both lead and coating. Those SWC were coated red. The TCFP with gold coating did not present the same problem. I was presuming a bad batch of coating formula maybe. I am not ordering any more of that same bullet without assurances.

RealGun said:

Same here on bad barrel deposits, both lead and coating. Those SWC were coated red. The TCFP with gold coating did not present the same problem. I was presuming a bad batch of coating formula maybe. I am not ordering any more of that same bullet without assurances.

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I'm glad you posted this. The first Missouri bullets I bought were gold color and they were some of the most accurate bullets I had ever shot.The next order I received the same bullets had a red coating and it looked thicker. It was probably me, but they didn't seem to shoot quite as accurate. Next time I ordered, I called it in and requested the gold color and was told you couldn't specify which color and it was all the same formula, just a different color. I had to ask why use 2 different colors as I had guessed that one was the Brinell 12 and other the 18 but I was told that was not true and they just had 2 different colors and there was no real reason. Seems weird to me, but I have not let it be a big deal and keep ordering. If they say there is no difference, then I'm going to believe them until I find out different, but it does seem to me the gold coated are a tad more accurate, but it could just be me. There is not enough difference with my shooting to say for sure and if there is a real difference it is not much. If the first one I bought had been red, I would probably prefer the red, so I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, but it does not make sense to me why a company would make 2 different colors and switch for no reason or at least let the buyer specify which one he wants.

I have purchased quite a bit of their 38 PP #2 (were red, BTW), and 44 Cowboy #3 (also red coating) and none of them have given me an ounce of leading. Granted, they are both 12 hardness. The coating on all of them is very thick. I've pushed those Cowboy #3's right up to 1000fps with no issues.

I just recently ordered those .44 Elmer K with a hardness of 18. The coating on them is kind of thin, you can see the bare lead in some spots (I'll take a pic). I made the following loads, ran through my 7.5" Super Redhawk: 2400- 1375 fps, H110- 1357 fps. Both gave me slight leading. Not insane like the uncoated Sommers 240g projectiles are, but still enough to be an issue.

For those with leading woes, slugging the barrel and ensuring proper-size bullets are good starting points to reduce/negate leading.

Herman B said:

For those with leading woes, slugging the barrel and ensuring proper-size bullets are good starting points to reduce/negate leading.

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I do not disagree with that...but I'll say I'm not having leading issues with their other projectiles, which are the same diameter (just softer).

For inexpensive jacketed bullets, it’s ROZE distribution. not Rose.
Troy foulweather “no speek, reed, or rite,ingleesh“...
A rework of Zero Bullet Co. Roze is the retail, online outlet.