Gun Trusts

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Prior to 41F (which was implemented in June or July of 2016 — I can’t remember the exact date), there were never any fingerprints or photos required when using a trust or corporation.
Obama did this via E/O or at least this was procedural correct? Would be nice if our President who undid everything else his predecessor did would undo this as well. Not holding my breath on that though.
 
Obama did this via E/O or at least this was procedural correct? Would be nice if our President who undid everything else his predecessor did would undo this as well. Not holding my breath on that though.
41F was actually an overall improvement in the process. Prior to 41F, individuals needed permission from their local law enforcement to buy a NFA item. If you lived in a place where the CLEO’s wouldn’t give permission, you were forced to use a trust or corporation.

Sure, 41F added the fingerprint and photo requirement to trust and corporations, but it removed the CLEO permission required for individuals. So 41F made it slightly more difficult to submit as a trust or corporation, but it also made it possible for many people to buy as an individual, where it was impossible before. That was a net improvement in my opinion.
 
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41F was actually an overall improvement in the process. Prior to 41F, individuals needed permission from their local law enforcement to buy a NFA item. If you lived in a place where the CLEO’s wouldn’t give permission, you were forced to use a trust or corporation.
Yes, and "NFA trusts" were devised as a workaround for non-signing CLEO's. Before that, gun trusts were unheard of.
Sure, 41F added the fingerprint and photo requirement to trust and corporations, but it removed the CLEO permission required for individuals. So 41F made it slightly more difficult to submit as a trust or corporation, but it also made it possible for many people to buy as an individual, where it was impossible before. That was a net improvement in my opinion.
Absolutely. Removing the CLEO permission was a huge improvement. Of course, by the time this change came about, a lot of people had a vested interest in what I would call the "trust industry." And there was inertia among rank-and-file gun buyers, who had come to see these trusts as normal. That's why there was so much blowback to 41F, which IMO was unjustified.
 
That's why there was so much blowback to 41F, which IMO was unjustified.
To be fair, much of the blowback was to the initial stages of the proposed 41P, which sought to require trusts and corporations to follow the same requirements as individuals did at the time. And that would mean no more NFA items for anyone who couldn’t get a CLEO sign-off (like most of WA state, where I lived at the time). Trusts would no longer be a workaround.

It wasn’t until a few months before the implementation of 41F until we found out that the CLEO sign-off was going away altogether.
 
...While I have a trust that a lawyer set up 2 years ago, the guns weren't specifically referred to in it. As I have pictures with brief descriptions saved to a Word document, I have printed those three pages and put it in the binder for the trust with specific instructions that they are for the nephew. ...

I think it's very important that you go back to the lawyer who set the trust up, have a thorough and in depth discussion of what you're trying to accomplish, and then have the lawyer revise the trust document as necessary or desirable. The thing is that the separate document you prepared might, or might not (and most likely "not") be binding on the trustee.

A lot depends on how the trust document is written and state law, but in general a trustee must act in accordance with the express terms of the trust document. There can be a possibility that a trustee would decline to follow instructions which are separate from the trust document. Doing so could subject a trustee to liability.
 
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