Mauser 93 custom

Good information. BTW...never said my 1916 was stronger than the Mark V Weatherby...just more accurate than the snob that sat there and made fun of it.

Design can accommodate materials. I like the Mann "Hamburg Rifle" with its interrupted thread locking lugs.

whatnickname said:

Good information. BTW...never said my 1916 was stronger than the Mark V Weatherby...just more accurate than the snob that sat there and made fun of it.

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It is hard to shoot a magnum well. There is just something about the recoil that makes me want to flinch!

Jim Watson said:

Design can accommodate materials.

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Just as with air cooling: you can't get colder than ambient, no design is stronger than the materials it is made of.

Except on the internet, where anything is possible!

Jessesky said:

That appears to be a CG80. A pretty rare Swedish FSR and 300m match rifle here in the states. It was the next iteration of the CG63. I don’t believe any were chambered in 308.

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I think you are right. What I can see of the stock looks like what is shown at these links.

The rise and fall of the CG80.

Swedish Military Rifles 1963 - 1989

I had never heard of these versions of the M1896 Mauser. I do remember seeing pictures of M96 rifles that were converted to 308Win, and thought this was one of them. Even so, these were still built on Military small ring actions, I have no idea if they picked WW2 actions over earlier actions, but it sure shows what happens when a case head blows in one of the things.

And let no one think that a reloader can't push the pressures on a 6.5 X 55 case well above the original service load and set back the receiver seats, think again:

Cautions on Swedish Mauser actions converted to .30-06, .270. etc.

The Kimber's suffered from setback more from excess headspacing than anything else. they were hastily cobbled together rifles meant to maximize profits and many were down right dangerous.

I worked on four or five Kimber sporters last year in 6.5x55. They all had excess headspace. Seems barrels were simply reprofiled and screwed on. Several had the top lug contacting the breech face. Hard to check headsace under those conditions.

There is a whole bunch of Swedish Mauser worship, and reverence for "Swedish Steel", (similar to the worship of "German Technology"). But you know, vacuum tube technology was just being invented in WW1, and this is WW2 vacuum tube technology.



And regardless of what you think about Swedish Steel or German Technology, 1918 manufacturing technology is still pre vacuum tube technology, and WW2 manufacturing technology is still vacuum tube technology. People understand the difference between 2G, 3G, 4G technology on their phones, and if someone was to praise to high heaven 2G technology, the group would recognize that person as ignorant. But, when it comes to technological discussions from 1900 to 1940, everyone assumes the Kaiser had a 4G cell phone.

I picked up a Spanish 1916 Mauser that had been rebarreled in 7.62 CETME some years ago
I've only fired it using reduced charges. It still retained an original, unmolested stock, which gave me an idea.
Saturday I brought home another 1916 Mauser, this one in its original 7mm but with a cut down stock.
Time for a transplant... .

BTW, the 7.62 CETME barrel is getting marked as such.

theotherwaldo said:

I picked up a Spanish 1916 Mauser that had been rebarreled in 7.62 CETME some years ago
I've only fired it using reduced charges. It still retained an original, unmolested stock, which gave me an idea.
Saturday I brought home another 1916 Mauser, this one in its original 7mm but with a cut down stock.
Time for a transplant... .

BTW, the 7.62 CETME barrel is getting marked as such.

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I believe the 7.62 action can be fired safely if the 308 round is downloaded. It is my recollection that the original 7 X 57 mm round was a 43,000 psia affair, and the 308 Win can be downloaded to those levels.

I believe this load, a 168 bullet with 39.0 grains IMR 4895, is a virtual pressure equivalent of the 7 X 57 round, and it is plenty accurate:





Using a 150gr bullet instead of a 168 would drop pressures even further. But the main thing is, keeping within the pressure limits of the original issue cartridge. No one should be hot loading old military actions to pressure levels that exceed the service cartridge. It is just not safe!

Starting .308 load is about 7mm pressure and .300 Savage velocity.
Only the biggest game is out of .300 Savage reach.
Or if you have an accurate Spanish Mauser, the old 300 meter load of a 173 at 2200 fps ought to be safe. I briefly owned a CG63 that would probably have shot that well.

A couple of years ago I brought up the topic of 7.62 conversions in the 1916 Spanish rifle. I didn't pay much for it, and it was a lesson learned. Slamfire gave me similar info then as he is posting now, and In my case it was spot on. I took my rifle to a good gunsmith who checked it out, excessive headspace and bolt lug setback. Proceed with caution!

I'd find a heavy-for-caliber round-nose bullet, (Hornady used to make a 100 grain RN) load it to around 45,000, throw on a 1.5-4X, and have a sweet little deer gun.