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The only thing I require on a Glock is a beavertail. I shoot them better than any other striker gun I've shot and the GRIP ANGLE is one reason I like them.

I prefer a grip angle that's less perpendicular, or more angled to the bore axis. Think Ruger MK, or any competition target pistol.

IMHO the triggers on stock Glocks are comparable to 90% of other striker guns on the market. My 17 and 26 measure right around 4lbs on my Lyman. Not as "crisp" or "clean" as a few others Ive tried but certainly usable.


That being said I generally dont have problems shooting other pistols, unless they have close to a 90* grip angle.
 
I tried and wanted to like them, but they aren't very comfortable in hand, I have to break my wrist downward to line up the sights because of the grip angle, amongst other things like the price for what you get... Seems like there are other guns on the market with a better or similar trigger, better grip angle, much better price, steel sights out the box, etc. I get the allure of the aftermarket options and being easy to break down and work on. Other than that, I just don't get what all the fuss is about, or why people like to pretend they're the best in class in today's crowded market.

I wholeheartedly believe that if everyone's memory pertaining to firearm models where wiped clean, most people would not choose Glocks over the other pistols on the market...
 
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SharpDog said:
I have a big box of Glocks, all gen 1's and 2's in 9mm, .40, .357 sig, .45 acp. full size, mid size and compact. I've moved on. I shot them for over 10 years after 1911's. I shoot better with pistols that have better ergonomics (grip angle).

Glock is not perfection for me.

Flame suit = on
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SharpDog, no need for a flame suit. I know a good many people that don't care for Glock pistols. We all have the ones we like, some more then others.
The ones that need flame suits are the one that think they know what they are talking about when they have little to no hands on knowledge.
I meet a guy years ago that said the 1911 was about the worst pistol ever made. I asked if he had ever owned one, he said no. I asked if he had ever fired one , he said no. I then asked how did he come to the conclusion that they were the worst pistol ever made. He told me about how his uncle hated the one he was issued when in the Army and about how some people he knew that told him about all the trouble they had with them. So no first hand knowledge, and he thought he knew what he was talking about.o_O
I like guns and love to shoot them. It would be hard for me to find a Handgun that I haven't fired yet. There are some I don't like or care for, but those are few.
I had shot a few Glocks over the years, but never owned or carried one until about 18 years ago. I was issued a Glock 22 Gen3 in my second year as a police officer. What I liked most about it was that it replaced the boat anchor I had been carrying, a S&W 4046. Don't get me wrong, the 4046 was a nice gun, but boy was it heavy and that 11 pound trigger sucked.
When my department went to the Gen 4 Glocks, I bought the Gen 3 that I had carried for just over two years. I liked the 22 Gen 4 due to the change in the size of the grip. About two years ago I switched to a Glock 17 Gen4 as my issued duty weapon and will purchase it when I retire next year.
I do own a few Glocks and can tell you that the Gen 1 and 2s are not my favorite. The Gen 3s are ok but the Gen 4s are better. But then Glock had to go and put out the Gen 5 guns. I was going to buy a 19 Gen5, but I don't care for the cutout on the front of the grip. I did buy a 19X and then a G45 and have to say that the G45 has become my favorite Glock.
If you haven't tried out a Gen 5 yet, you should find someone that has one and give it a try.
To me, The Glocks are tools. There are many hammers out there like Estwing, but my hammer is a Glock.
 
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GunnyUSMC said:
SharpDog, no need for a flame suit. I know a good many people that don't care for Glock pistols. We all have the ones we like, some more then others.
The ones that need flame suits are the one that think they know what they are talking about when they have little to no hands on knowledge.
I meet a guy years ago that said the 1911 was about the worst pistol ever made. I asked if he had ever owned one, he said no. I asked if he had ever fired one , he said no. I then asked how did he come to the conclusion that they were the worst pistol ever made. He told me about how his uncle hated the one he was issued when in the Army and about how some people he knew that told him about all the trouble they had with them. So no first hand knowledge, and he thought he knew what he was talking about.o_O
I like guns and love to shoot them. It would be hard for me to find a Handgun that I haven't fired yet. There are some I don't like or care for, but those are few.
I had shot a few Glocks over the years, but never owned or carried one until about 18 years ago. I was issued a Glock 22 Gen3 in my second year as a police officer. What I liked most about it was that it replaced the boat anchor I had been carrying, a S&W 4046. Don't get me wrong, the 4046 was a nice gun, but boy was it heavy and that 11 pound trigger sucked.
When my department went to the Gen 4 Glocks, I bought the Gen 3 that I had carried for just over two years. I liked the 22 Gen 4 due to the change in the size of the grip. About two years ago I switched to a Glock 17 Gen4 as my issued duty weapon and will perches it when I retire next year.
I do own a few Glocks and can tell you that the Gen 1 and 2s are not my favorite. The Gen 3s are ok but the Gen 4s are better. But then Glock had to go and put out the Gen 5 guns. I was going to buy a 19 Gen5, but I don't care for the cutout on the front of the grip. I did buy a 19X and then a G45 and have to say that the G45 has become my favorite Glock.
If you haven't tried out a Gen 5 yet, you should find someone that has one and give it a try.
To me, The Glocks are tools. There are many hammers out there like Estwing, but my hammer is a Glock.
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Thought they came out with a Gen5 w/o that cutout?
 
I own 2 Glocks mod 35? Full size 45gap they are truck guns in a case with 4 mags ea. I like that they don't surface rust like my 1911s did, I found I can shoot them well enough but my buddies shorter barrel one was not accurate for me. I like the M&Ps, I shoot the full size, compact and shield in 45acp to minute of paper plate at 10yrds, except after a 20yrd run (jog) to raise my heart rate. I'm more accurate with the 1911s but I've delagated them to range days
 
When I told my sister that I had bought my first gun - until then, I had used an inherited Beretta 70 (my dad's) - she immediately asked, "did you get a Glock?". When I told my best friend that I had bought my first gun, she immediately asked, "did you get a Glock?". Neither of these women shoot; to speak of.

I didn't look to Glock for my first (or second) gun because I wanted a thumb safety. Now that I am becoming more self-assured, generally, and seem to prefer the lean lines and legend of reliability; I will probably take a peek.

Glock's marketing discipline has clearly been successfully influenced by sociology in the United States.
 
Thibaut said:
When I told my sister that I had bought my first gun - until then, I had used an inherited Beretta 70 (my dad's) - she immediately asked, "did you get a Glock?". When I told my best friend that I had bought my first gun, she immediately asked, "did you get a Glock?". Neither of these women shoot; to speak of.

I didn't look to Glock for my first (or second) gun because I wanted a thumb safety. Now that I am becoming more self-assured, generally, and seem to prefer the lean lines and legend of reliability; I will probably take a peek.

Glock's marketing discipline has clearly been successfully influenced by sociology in the United States.
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That is so funny, every time I mention to someone that knows nothing about guns, they asked me if I own a Glock.
 
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I have never had a problem with the box stock trigger of any Glock and IMO it is an excellent trigger for a SD striker fired pistol. If one sits at a desk with two pistols to compare triggers like Sootch does in his YT videos and goes on an on about minute differences in triggers making a big deal about them then one might get the impression that such differences translate into one shooting better than the other. I have found that is not the case while shooting live fire. When doing a desk comparison my Walther PPQ has a better trigger than my Gen 2 Glock 19 but at the range it makes no difference to me out to 75 feet which is their maximum distance. IMO Glocks have a pretty decent trigger out of the box and not something I would want to modify.
 
Thibaut said:
When I told my sister that I had bought my first gun - until then, I had used an inherited Beretta 70 (my dad's) - she immediately asked, "did you get a Glock?". When I told my best friend that I had bought my first gun, she immediately asked, "did you get a Glock?". Neither of these women shoot; to speak of.

I didn't look to Glock for my first (or second) gun because I wanted a thumb safety. Now that I am becoming more self-assured, generally, and seem to prefer the lean lines and legend of reliability; I will probably take a peek.

Glock's marketing discipline has clearly been successfully influenced by sociology in the United States.
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I'm born and raised in NY. No one in my family owns firearms and frowns on them... They even don't want their kids playing with water guns or anything in the shape of a gun...

Anyway fast forward years later when I decided I wanted to get my first gun, I knew nothing about any other manufacturers. When I took the CCW class (which was the first time I shot a gun), I chose to rent a Glock. When I purchased my first gun, it was a Glock. I assume that's how it starts for most people. They generally never heard or experienced other brands before becoming immersed and indoctrinated in everything Glock. That becomes what they're use to and compare everything else to... Not saying that's the path everyone takes, but I know a lot of people do. I hear people who are interested in owning or shooting a gun for the first time who have zero experience whatsoever saying their first gun will be a Glock without ever firing or holding one. Without taking into account that other offerings may be a better fit.
 
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Styx said:
I'm born and raised in NY. No one in my family owns firearms and frowns on them... They even don't want their kids playing with water guns or anything in the shape of a gun...

Anyway fast forward years later when I decided I wanted to get my first gun, I knew nothing about any other manufacturers. When I took the CCW class (which was the first time I shot a gun), I choose to rent a Glock. When I purchased my first gun, it was a Glock. I assume that's how it starts for most people. They generally never heard or experienced other brands before becoming immersed and indoctrinated in everything Glock. That becomes what they're use to and compare everything else to... Not saying that's the path everyone takes, but I know a lot of people do. I hear people who are interested in owning or shooting a gun for the first time who have zero experience whatsoever saying their first gun will be a Glock without ever firing or holding one. Without taking into account that other offerings may be a better fit.
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That’s funny...
I just met a guy who moved to Ohio a few months ago from Long Island. His father in law has been taking him to our gun shows, and he is overwhelmed by the freedom we have to own firearms...like a kid in a candy store, LOL.
He told me he can’t wait to buy a Glock 19.
 
No such thing as perfection, but a Glock trigger can be improved with less than $40 worth of aftermarket parts (APEX plunger and connector). There are excellent aftermarket sights available, I have Vickers Elite / Wilson Combat F.O. front & blind battlesight rears on my Gen3 17 & 19. These both have Grip Force Adapters which I think improves the way these point to a target, so the grip angle business is NBD. And I‘ve been to the Glock Store in So Cal several times, which IMHO gives excellent customer service for any Glock upgrades.
 
JDR said:
No such thing as perfection, but a Glock trigger can be improved with less than $40 worth of aftermarket parts (APEX plunger and connector).
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Yeah, I tune my Glock triggers myself exactly the way I want. No over travel, minimal pre-travel and a 3.5 lb pull.
But to get my Browning HP the way I like it, I will have to send it to Cylinder and Slide at a cost of around $250 + shipping with a 10 month wait.
 
I have 9 Glocks ... Only one that I had to do a slight undercut on tne trigger guard... thats my 30S . ...

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Yeah this is a "like 'em" or "don't like 'em" discussion, I guess. I own the G20 and G29, and I'm not sure the aftermarket triggers are any more appealing than the factory ones they came with...but I'm also not one to go all nuts about whether triggers are this or that. They're fairly unimportant for any kind of shooting I do. My impression is that folks who really like Glocks are impressed with or take the view that they are super-reliable, and I've never found them to be any less likely to jam up than any other auto pistol I own--I can easily find a handload that will jam up any pistol I have. :D

For me, and only speaking for myself, the ones I have are not all that enjoyable to shoot, although I've found the G29 to be more tolerable than the the G20, oddly enough. I just got the G20 out of the dust bin last week, and intend to give it a thorough revisit over the next 6 months or so. I think I've had it about 5 years or so. I find the G20 to be just ridiculously ill-fitting--without question the one pistol I own that seems like it was designed by a non-human shooter. But that wont stop me from really trying to give it a fair shake every 18 months or so.

I have a couple of pistols that, when I pick them up, I get a smile, a good feeling of happiness, control and excitement about shooting. These two are not them, although I admit the G29 always puts a big smile on my face once I start shooting it. The G20 just makes me ask, "Why?".

It's probably also noteworthy that, for a gun that probably takes most Glock owners less than a second to field strip--took me about 3 minutes of futzing with just a few days ago. I've never developed the simple skill of actually getting that goofy disassembly thingie held down on both sides at the same time--took me about a dozen attempts. I'm sure this comes from not doing it much but gee, such a simple thing for almost anyone, I'm sure--
 
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But to get my Browning HP the way I like it, I will have to send it to Cylinder and Slide at a cost of around $250 + shipping with a 10 month wait.
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Would I trade any of my Glocks for another BHP? - absolutely!
Would I trade either of my BHP’s for several Glocks? - never!
 
GunnyUSMC said:
I do own a few Glocks and can tell you that the Gen 1 and 2s are not my favorite. The Gen 3s are ok but the Gen 4s are better. But then Glock had to go and put out the Gen 5 guns. I was going to buy a 19 Gen5, but I don't care for the cutout on the front of the grip.
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Funny that's exactly how I feel about the various generations, right down to the annoying slide cutout on the 5's.
 
I use Glocks, they work very well for me. Unless they are a mandatory issue pistol for the agency you work for, no one has to use them or like them. If they are your required issue, you need to embrace it and get as good as possible with it. This is the case for any handgun.
 
FL-NC said:
I use Glocks, they work very well for me. Unless they are a mandatory issue pistol for the agency you work for, no one has to use them or like them. If they are your required issue, you need to embrace it and get as good as possible with it. This is the case for any handgun.
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My brother carried a Sig P220 for many of his years as a Deputy, then was issued a P229 in .357 Sig when he made Detective.

New sheriff gets elected and decided to replace the aging Sigs with Glocks. Brother is hopping mad and even buys back his beloved 229. Gets his new Gen 5 G19 and goes to qualify with it and shoots his highest scores ever.

Now he's a fan of the Glocks...
 
Love or hate Glocks , but the ease of complete disassembly and reassembly is a marvel of engineering compared to almost all others. I grew up in the age of metal guns and even I adore the Glock 17 .
 
I own a few Glocks (19, 20, 33) and have owned several more. It’s not the feel of the trigger that bothers me, it’s the way they seem to get snagged on stuff so often. I also don’t care for the grip angle and for the lack of chamber support on the early 20, 22 and 23 barrels. If I carried one I would definitely replace the slide plate with a Striker Control Device to minimize the chance of Glock leg.

I’m generally not a fan of the light, short trigger gun with the safety on the trigger, so I don’t care for the similar guns from any other maker. The Glock just adds a secondary annoyance with the grip angle. The only striker fired gun I’ve handled that I think has a trigger not at risk for AD is the Kahr with its long, smooth pull that resembles a DA revolver.

I’m not a Glock hater, I’m a ND hater, and there’s plenty of evidence (just do a Google search) that they are easy to cause with a gun using a “safe action” style trigger.

I do wish other makers would take a cue from Glock with regard to magazine compatibility and pricing. The prices Sig and HK charge for their magazines are just stupid. CZ is even worse.
 
Elkins45 said:
I own a few Glocks (19, 20, 33) and have owned several more. It’s not the feel of the trigger that bothers me, it’s the way they seem to get snagged on stuff so often. I also don’t care for the grip angle and for the lack of chamber support on the early 20, 22 and 23 barrels. If I carried one I would definitely replace the slide plate with a Striker Control Device to minimize the chance of Glock leg.

I’m generally not a fan of the light, short trigger gun with the safety on the trigger, so I don’t care for the similar guns from any other maker. The Glock just adds a secondary annoyance with the grip angle. The only striker fired gun I’ve handled that I think has a trigger not at risk for AD is the Kahr with its long, smooth pull that resembles a DA revolver.

I’m not a Glock hater, I’m a ND hater, and there’s plenty of evidence (just do a Google search) that they are easy to cause with a gun using a “safe action” style trigger.

I do wish other makers would take a cue from Glock with regard to magazine compatibility and pricing. The prices Sig and HK charge for their magazines are just stupid. CZ is even worse.
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I can't speak on CZ and HK mags, but S&W, Ruger, Beretta, Kahr, and others have mags that are priced around the same as Glock OEM mags.

To defend Glocks, Glock and comparable striker fire pistols are the most popular in the U.S. and the world. Millions if not over a billion are in circulation via L.E., military, and civilians. I will have to disagree with the notion that the triggers on these pistols are getting snagged on stuff often, and in the extremely rare occasions that they do, there are usually other operator error factors in play that has little to do with the trigger design... Either bad holster design, not keeping fingers off the trigger, not making sure the holster is free of obstruction during holstering, so on and so forth. This is a gun safety issue on the part of the user and not a design flaw.
 
Styx said:
I tried and wanted to like them, but they aren't very comfortable in hand, I have to break my wrist downward to line up the sights because of the grip angle, amongst other things like the price for what you get... Seems like there are other guns on the market with a better or similar trigger, better grip angle, much better price, steel sights out the box, etc. I get the allure of the aftermarket options and being easy to break down and work on. Other than that, I just don't get what all the fuss is about, or why people like to pretend they're the best in class in today's crowded market.

I wholeheartedly believe that if everyone's memory pertaining to firearm models where wiped clean, most people would not choose Glocks over the other pistols on the market...
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You would be wrong, I picked Glock as my first ever handgun precisely - in part - because it pointed more naturally for me when I tried it in store vs other guns they had in the same price range.

I had no experience shooting handguns at that point and went with what felt better in my hand (well, Glock’s reputation for being a very reliable easy to maintain gun was a big factor too).


No one in this thread seems to have mentioned that Glock grip angle is similar to Luger which the THR community is perpetually salivating over.
 
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