Model 41 S&W collector's site?.....

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Yes. If it fit in the box. In the 1970s men fired International Standard Pistol matches, a 5.5 barrel could be used by the rules. The OP long barrel would not fit the box in 1970 to 1981, when i shot competion at the local level. But could be used as a Free Pistol, loaded as a single shot.

Back then i had in 22 rim fires, 3 Rugers , one was vented for Rapid Fire., 3 High Standards, one with 22 short kit, M41 5.5" bbl. and a modified T/C Contender for Free Pistol. A Feinwerkbau air pistol.

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Wow, cool!
 
I don't see anything "Olympic."
It looks like a bog standard M41 as sold for NRA Smallbore.
Maybe to a service team.

If the serial number is 98XX1 it dates to sometime before 1970 but my book doesn't say just when.

I guess I didn't make it clear enough. I was curious as to the addition of the grove for "Olympic weights"
I got the same for the date as they have a giant generic block covering several years. Hopefully my letter will have a shipping date included.



Todd
 
Yes. If it fit in the box. In the 1970s men fired International Standard Pistol matches, a 5.5 barrel could be used by the rules. The OP long barrel would not fit the box in 1970 to 1981, when i shot competion at the local level. But could be used as a Free Pistol, loaded as a single shot.

Back then i had in 22 rim fires, 3 Rugers , one was vented for Rapid Fire., 3 High Standards, one with 22 short kit, M41 5.5" bbl. and a modified T/C Contender for Free Pistol. A Feinwerkbau air pistol. Center fire S&W M28 in 6".

Excellent background info. Thanks fro taking the time with that.


Todd.
 
I shot matches in the 1980s under Deutscher Schuetzenbund rules, which are very closely related to ISSF rules but still have .22 pistols & revolvers for local and national accuracy events. I started out with a club owned Colt OMM and FN 150 until I bought a Gehmann Walther GSP, which I later traded in for a Hammerli 208. I shot a S&W 14-2 or a Colt Python for centerfire and a Feinwerkbau 65 and 80 airpistol and practiced a lot with a Walther LP53. I still have all those guns with t he exception of the GSP.

The unbroken record of the Hammerli 208 probably needs the explanation, that the rapid fire target was changed in the late 80s and scores dropped. Our club record of a half match was 299/300 and was shot with an FN 150 on the old target.

Airguns are excellent training tools!
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They are good and fun guns...
For awhile S&W made the heavy 5.5" barrel with extending front sights that increased the sight radius...
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Great photos.
It's been quite some time since I've seen an extended front sight on either a revolver or auto. Looks like it was a bit of a commitment for the manufacturer to offer that. Good for them...... and, you.



Todd.
 
rcmodel is missed. He very much helped me with his knowledge. A lot of the knowledge about older guns and accessories is poorly documented and when the "old guys" go, that knowledge will go with them.

That weight on his M41 is patterened after the Walther Olympic weight. The M41 is in many other ways clearly influenced by the Walther 1936 Olympic, which developed into the Hammerli International / 208.
 
Always had an affection for the 41, the early ones had the cocking indicator and removable comp. Behind the comp (under the barrel) you could insert either steel or aluminum round weights to fine tune the balance. The grooves on the front barrel accommodated the larger Olympic weight set, which could be disassembled into 3 configurations or slid front to back, depending how much weight you wanted. These came in both a steel and aluminum version.

One has the Herritt adjustable grips and weighted magazines, makes it easier to insert and drops the mag freely when released.

Nice guns, always liked the quick release barrel feature, that's what got me hooked on them.

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I shot matches in the 1980s under Deutscher Schuetzenbund rules, which are very closely related to ISSF rules but still have .22 pistols & revolvers for local and national accuracy events. I started out with a club owned Colt OMM and FN 150 until I bought a Gehmann Walther GSP, which I later traded in for a Hammerli 208. I shot a S&W 14-2 or a Colt Python for centerfire and a Feinwerkbau 65 and 80 airpistol and practiced a lot with a Walther LP53. I still have all those guns with t he exception of the GSP.

The unbroken record of the Hammerli 208 probably needs the explanation, that the rapid fire target was changed in the late 80s and scores dropped. Our club record of a half match was 299/300 and was shot with an FN 150 on the old target.

Airguns are excellent training tools!

Me, too. From 1980 to late 1982 I was the sole Ami member of Schuetzengilde Kornwestheim. I showed-up at the club with a S&W Model 18, and asked if I could shoot with them: they said 'Wilkommen!', and I shot evenings a couple of times a week. I shot every discipline they had, except Armbrust (crossbow), and was Vereinsmeister at one time in 3 disciplines: Sportpistole, Luftpistole, and Vorderlader Gewehr. I was a team member of their Bezirks, Kreis and Landesklasse teams in different disciplines.
My ultimate competition pistols were a S&W Model 41, with the 5" heavy barrel, a S&W Model 52, and a Feinwerkbau Model 80 - all of which I still have. My muzzleloading pistol was a Siber .33, and my rifles were a Parker-Hale .451 Volunteer, and a custom .38 (actually 9.3mm) Schuetzen rifle by Rolf Wolf, in Schwabisch Hall - I kept those, too. I shot every type of European target pistol then available (and some Russian ones, too), and did not find that the S&W pistols needed to take a back seat to the Dominos, Walthers, Hammerlis, or anything else.

PRD1 - mhb - MIke
 
Me, too. From 1980 to late 1982 I was the sole Ami member of Schuetzengilde Kornwestheim. I showed-up at the club with a S&W Model 18, and asked if I could shoot with them: they said 'Wilkommen!', and I shot evenings a couple of times a week. I shot every discipline they had, except Armbrust (crossbow), and was Vereinsmeister at one time in 3 disciplines: Sportpistole, Luftpistole, and Vorderlader Gewehr. I was a team member of their Bezirks, Kreis and Landesklasse teams in different disciplines.
My ultimate competition pistols were a S&W Model 41, with the 5" heavy barrel, a S&W Model 52, and a Feinwerkbau Model 80 - all of which I still have. My muzzleloading pistol was a Siber .33, and my rifles were a Parker-Hale .451 Volunteer, and a custom .38 (actually 9.3mm) Schuetzen rifle by Rolf Wolf, in Schwabisch Hall - I kept those, too. I shot every type of European target pistol then available (and some Russian ones, too), and did not find that the S&W pistols needed to take a back seat to the Dominos, Walthers, Hammerlis, or anything else.

PRD1 - mhb - MIke
Now THAT, is some kinda background. Talk about taking full advantage.


Todd.
 
I realized in looking for this thread for my photo to use - that I never posted the outcome of my letter from Mr Jinks.

Well worth the money spent to me. 5 long paragraphs on the history of the 41.1 paragraph on my gun's particulars. Sadly, can't tell if it went National Guard, Reserves, Ft Devens or even Boston Army Base.

In any case, the U.S. was verified and that's the big one for me.

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Todd
 
I realized in looking for this thread for my photo to use - that I never posted the outcome of my letter from Mr Jinks.

Well worth the money spent to me. 5 long paragraphs on the history of the 41.1 paragraph on my gun's particulars. Sadly, can't tell if it went National Guard, Reserves, Ft Devens or even Boston Army Base.

In any case, the U.S. was verified and that's the big one for me.

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Todd
Neato!
Sold mine. Kinda heartbroken about it...but even aside from its ammo sensitivity and proclivity for jamming, I couldnt find any practical method for charging the slide which didnt involve bruised knuckles or pinched fingers. I really wanted to like that gun, but my silly 422 is 90% as accurate and 100% more user friendly and reliable, and if not nearly as classy.:confused:
 
Neato!
Sold mine. Kinda heartbroken about it...but even aside from its ammo sensitivity and proclivity for jamming, I couldnt find any practical method for charging the slide which didnt involve bruised knuckles or pinched fingers. I really wanted to like that gun, but my silly 422 is 90% as accurate and 100% more user friendly and reliable, and if not nearly as classy.:confused:

If you want a good rimfire target pistol, I cannot recommend the Hammerli International enough. They are not ammo sensitive, easy to maintain and very accurate. Used Internationals do not cost a whole lot more than a good S&W 41 but weights and magazines for them are expensive.

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Neato!
I couldnt find any practical method for charging the slide which didnt involve bruised knuckles or pinched fingers. I really wanted to like that gun, but my silly 422 is 90% as accurate and 100% more user friendly and reliable, and if not nearly as classy.:confused:

They can be truly awkward in general and so much more so when you're dealing with trying to find the ammo yours likes best.

Tough thing to put up with when other, cheaper guns run on crap you sweep up - then dust off - in the garage.:evil:

Todd.
 
They can be truly awkward in general and so much more so when you're dealing with trying to find the ammo yours likes best.

Tough thing to put up with when other, cheaper guns run on crap you sweep up - then dust off - in the garage.:evil:

Todd.
Im loving my .22 target REVOLVERS these days for just that reason.:)
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