saiga308
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not on your list S&w M&p 40 cal .20
got great options on back strap 4 total and the triggers been improve over the first gen
got great options on back strap 4 total and the triggers been improve over the first gen
Which .40 to Buy??
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I would get one of the steel framed S&W's, they're good quality guns and to think they're under 400 because they're .40 and not 9 is silly. I have to believe the heavier frame tames the .40 recoil to that of 9mm in a polymer pistol and that unknown of how much the recoil gets reduced has me wanting to buy a steel frame .40 lately with the Kahr and S&W on my mind given how cheap they go for used.
I really don't need another .40 right now, but I'm thinking in time the next .40 I get will be steel framed.
I really don't need another .40 right now, but I'm thinking in time the next .40 I get will be steel framed.
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OP, being a fellow WA resident, I am curious as to if you've purchased any handguns since the ridiculous 1639 legislation went into effect. I saw the ad for the CHP pistols and really, really wanted one, but I refuse to give my info to the local chief of police, pay the fee, take a class, and play the stupid leftist games currently in effect.
I am a huge .40 S&W fan and my daily carry is the S&W M&P40c. I also have the full-size M&P40, a SA XDS 40, and a Glock 35 match pistol. But I have always desired one of the old-school S&W all steel pistols.
I am a huge .40 S&W fan and my daily carry is the S&W M&P40c. I also have the full-size M&P40, a SA XDS 40, and a Glock 35 match pistol. But I have always desired one of the old-school S&W all steel pistols.
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Trey, I agree the new laws are DUM and won't do anything to solve the problem. But I have bought a couple of handguns since it's been passed. It's no big deal, really. As far as giving your info to local PD, you were doing that anyway before the law. You got a NICS background check, but local PD was notified on a separate form. Now there is no NICS check and local PD does the background. It hasn't taken more than 5 days for me whether I bought on line or in store. And there's no new fee, just the "tax" we were always paying on on-line purchases or regular sales tax, unless you did a transfer with a private individual in a gun store, then no tax. The class is required only on semi-auto rilfes ala ARs.
The only real difference is you can't walk out of the store with the gun even if you have a CPL, like you could before the law. Now, you wait no more than 10 days, but I've not had to wait more than 5 in Snohomish County. .
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I'm also a big fan of Smith Second and Third Generation pistols. My pick would be the Model 4006-built like a tank (and almost as heavy) and uber reliable (as is every Third Generation pistol I've ever owned). Mine is also an le trade-in and has the adjustable sight with the protective shrouds (some people find the "ears" unattractive; I appreciate the utility of them). My Model 4006 is in good condition and I paid $359.99 for it several years ago.
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I own two of the guns on your list. Lighter weight, higher capacity and lower recoil make the PX4 my choice over the 4006. The rotating barrel lockup actually does make a noticeable difference in recoil. As much as I love the 3rd gen Smiths the steel frame and 11 round mag don’t really benefit you over the PX4.
The gun I actually decided on is the CZ P07. Think of the Glock 23 but with a hammer and better ergonomics. For a long time I was really considering the PX4 but the slightly thinner grip frame of the CZ was the deciding factor.
The gun I actually decided on is the CZ P07. Think of the Glock 23 but with a hammer and better ergonomics. For a long time I was really considering the PX4 but the slightly thinner grip frame of the CZ was the deciding factor.
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In my case, I live in a town of 1200 with a crooked Chief of Police. I'm going to be a city councilman here in a couple of weeks, specifically in the seat that oversees the police and fire departments. One of my main goals is to hold the guy accountable for his actions. The thought of him having access to my medical and mental health records is sobering (I was on anti-depressants for a few months when I quit smoking and have prostate issues). I have no doubt that the guy will either use that information against me or deny my permit. So I'm not buying any firearm that gives him access to my private information until he is replaced with an honorable person.
As to the pistol choice, I agree with other posters that there are far better platforms for the .40 S&W, but it sounds like this will just be a range toy and to satisfy your curiosity with the .40 S&W. The PX4 will be the lowest recoil, but the CHP S&W will have the biggest "cool" factor.
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sig p229 was my choice
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I love my sig p229
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Just to end the thread, I went with a PX4 and a good trade at my LGS. Now that I have a .40 carry gun, I'll be looking for a full sized pistol. Either a Beretta 96 or S&W 4006TSW CHP.
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Gordon
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I have a 4006, truly a reliable tank and dependable gun to have around. I have a beautiful Sig 239, slim reliable and accurate, carries really well for a couple hours as it is rather chunky. I carry a Walther PPS first gen and it is perfect for me
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I, also, have a 239 which I like except for the sights. The front sight is impossible to drift without a special SIG tool and the rear is too tall so it shoots low at 15 yards. The aluminum frame and steel slide make it a formidable weapon.
With an extra .357 Sig barrel it is all I desired except for the sights. (Longshot is the powder of choice for hi-powered loads.)
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If you bought the PX4 Compact, the PX4 Full Size is a full sized pistol. If you bought the PX4 Full Size, it is a full size pistol.
I recall a question on another forum asking how to ensure longevity with his Beretta 96. One of the moderators, a former Beretta employee, commented "don't shoot it". The 96A1 is currently the only .40 S&W model in the Beretta 90 Series line-up, and that gun comes with an integral buffer to increase life span. Beretta is probably at the high point in the number of models within the 90 Series line-up, and with the only .40 S&W model being the 96A1 probably has a little more to do than just the lack of popularity of the .40S&W round.
I'm a fan of S&W TDA auto's, I've owned a 4506 since the late 1980's, but S&W doesn't support these guns any more, and parts are not easy to come by. If you break something major, you may not be able to get it fixed.
Robbins290
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Ended up ordering a 5" FNS in 40 for 299 shipped. Hard to beat that price.
Gordon
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I have an "LEO" version as marked on the box with nite sights and they are right on. It was purchased from a local PD as used by Detective 6 months and turned in for High cap 9mms ! I guess they were sighted in by armorers. I also got 5 mags and a holster ! A local gunstore had all ten, I got my pick of the 8 that remained and it is as new in box and I think it was $400 about 5 years ago. I put a set of Houge Aluminum grips on it which were inexpensive but enhance the all metal image .
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JR24
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Still good deals for used 226 and 229s in .40 out there.
The 226 would be my full size choice over the Smith or Beretta myself.
The 226 would be my full size choice over the Smith or Beretta myself.
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