My new deer rifle.

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Bfh_auto said:
How stabile is that thing? It looks like it paired with a light recoiling rifle would be good for a slightly handicapped person.
That's a nice looking rifle.
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When properly set up, that thing is a tank. It's ideal for prairie shooting where you drive your truck up to your spot, unload your cooler and the Calwell Magnum Rifle Rest, and pop prairie dogs at 1000 yards. Thing is, I don't live in prairie dog country and can't drive up to my shooting spot. Our hunting is thick woods and a 200 yard shot would be the exception.

I bought it on a lark and just never got around to sending it back. But, I've got a little Browning 1885 in 22 hornet with a Leupold scope if'n I ever............

Until then, it's perfect for photographing long guns.

And, "stabile?" Isn't that a gas additive? Now, if you mean stable, it's very good.
 
SunnySlopes said:
When properly set up, that thing is a tank. It's ideal for prairie shooting where you drive your truck up to your spot, unload your cooler and the Calwell Magnum Rifle Rest, and pop prairie dogs at 1000 yards. Thing is, I don't live in prairie dog country and can't drive up to my shooting spot. Our hunting is thick woods and a 200 yard shot would be the exception.

I bought it on a lark and just never got around to sending it back. But, I've got a little Browning 1885 in 22 hornet with a Leupold scope if'n I ever............

Until then, it's perfect for photographing long guns.

And, "stabile?" Isn't that a gas additive? Now, if you mean stable, it's very good.
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Haha. I knew it didn't look right when I typed it, insomnia and spell check don't go well together.
 
cdb1 said:
I know I’m in the extreme minority but I prefer bolt action centerfire rifles with blind magazines.
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I have nothing against bolt-action rifles having blind magazines (one of my favorite rifles has one, a Savage Model 116, chambered in .338 Magnum) but they do have one potential downside: in the rare event there is a jam with the ammunition inside the magazine well, it's much easier to address the problem with a hinged floor plate.

LoonWulf said:
This is one of the reasons I REALLY like Abolt2s. you have the aesthetics of a hinged floor plate, but most of the convenience of a DBM....
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I agree completely. I've often wondered why Browning's unique approach with a magazine "having it both ways", as evidenced with the A-Bolt 2 design, never became more popular. I don't think even Browning employs it anymore.
One of the bigger downsides was the relatively high cost of spare mags; I think I paid close to forty bucks for one. Also, finding them for sale, especially for one that accommodates an unpopular cartridge (in my case, the .22 Hornet), might require a dedicated hunt for it.
 
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Nice rig!

What did the shroud/firing pin assembly set you back? I've bought assemblies from PTG and Gre-Tan, but never Holland. I'm not seeing the price on their website.
 
Thanks; a little higher than Gre-Tan, but not out of line. I won't carry a J-lock gun, either.

Oh, and a blind magazine is just fine on a hunting rig.
 
Someone brought over a new Savage Bolt-action "package" rifle today and I tried to get the scope adjusted and sighted-in, but in the haste, I didn't take time to check the mount screws for tightness. I bore-sighted it and checked the action screws and stock interior, but the scope seemed tight, so didn't bother checking either the base screws or scope ring screws. Big Mistake!!!

After bore-sighting, I got a couple of shots on-target at 25 yards, then adjusted to center and moved the target to 100 yards. I fired three shots and the bullets didn't hit the 8.5"x 11" sheet I was aiming at, but the one to the left and lower. I figured the scope was bad, so stopped shooting and decided to try another scope I had taken off another "package" deal rifle, but when I removed the rings, noticed that all the mount screws were barely finger-tight. I still installed the second scope, which was apparently taken off another "package deal rifle" and made sure all was tight. The scopes on those "package deals" appear to be about the worse I've seen and I'd never give a nickel extra to get one with a rifle.

I'll try the second scope and take the first one with me to the range, along with tools. Perhaps, after screws are tightened, it might work better than the second one. We'll see.
 
SwampWolf said:
I have nothing against bolt-action rifles having blind magazines (one of my favorite rifles has one, a Savage Model 116, chambered in .338 Magnum) but they do have one potential downside: in the rare event there is a jam with the ammunition inside the magazine well, it's much easier to address the problem with a hinged floor plate.
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True, I never thought about that.
 
Slamfire said:
That was a classic target load with 168 SMK's, I bumped it up a bit with my Federal Fusions to 57 grs and it shot well all the way out to 300 yards. Accurate Arms told me they mix AA4350 to the same pressure curve as IMR 4350.

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Based on in print gunwriter recommendations, I tried 59.0 grs AA4350 with a 150, it was fast, it was accurate, it also etched the face of the dropping block on my Ruger #1.

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So, I think 57 grains is a max load, but there is nothing wrong with 55 grs IMR 4350 as that will do everything you need. Based on my tests at CMP Talladega, bullet drop with round nose bullets is hardly noticeable out to 300 yards, it is at 600 yards that you notice that you are cranking up a lot of elevation. The targets at Talladega are 200, 300, and 600 yards. I wish they had a 400 yard target.

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By the way, you did well finding a stainless left handed M700, I have not seen many of them.
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I appreciate your posts. I've known old school shooters like you who practiced marksmanship to the point it became an art. A virtual wealth of information.

These days I see shooters at the range with Walmart bought ammunition and ARs and Glocks and they're practicing rapid fire at close range targets. I don't even see many bolt action rifles anymore, come to think of it.

Anyway, thanks again.
 
Legionnaire said:
Thanks; a little higher than Gre-Tan, but not out of line. I won't carry a J-lock gun, either.

Oh, and a blind magazine is just fine on a hunting rig.
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It was mildly irritating to pay the extra ~$126 (bolt + shipping + insurance) especially since I 1) didn't know Remington had put that lock on the 700 and 2) I didn't see it in the pictures.

But, in retrospect, the rifle was one of those "grail" guns for me so, with the low price I paid for the gun, it's ok.

I took it to the range yesterday to sight it in and it's old school Remington smooth. I had read about recent Remington bolt actions being gritty, unreliable, etc. But this one is smooth.

And being so light, I was concerned about perceived recoil, but it's nominal.

An interesting aside: I had just arrived at the range. Beautiful day. Upper 40s/low 50s. Sunny and slight breeze. I was setting up and spike buck walked up to the pond adjacent to the 300 yard rifle lane. He saw me but kept coming. 25 yards away and I'm thinking, "Why get ready for opening day...................? It's right here. It's a sign..........."

And if I got caught harvesting a deer before gun season, "Officer, I'm telling you, he jumped out of nowhere right into my line of sight just as I fired! I think he was suicidal! You know, he actually looked a little depressed! And it's a sin to waste food.....!"

I got pictures of the little fellow on my iPhone but I don't know how to put them on a computer.
 
cdb1 said:
I know I’m in the extreme minority but I prefer bolt action centerfire rifles with blind magazines. I’m okay with a hinged floorpate but will not own a rifle with a dbm. Let me rephrase that: I won’t own a budget rifle with a DBM. I could cope with a Sako though I’d prefer a blind magazine or hinged floorplate.
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"DBM?" "Detachable Box Magazine?"
 
Picher said:
Nice rifle! Must come back pretty hard, though.
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I took it to the range yesterday with that same concern. I fired 20 handloads (150 grain round nose bullets ahead of 55 grains 4350) and ~10 factory Remington pointed soft point 150 grain core lokt factory bullets.

It was not bad at all. Certainly not as bad as I anticipated.
 
cdb1 said:
Wow, there needs to be a new classification for that chambering. Super Duper Wildcat.
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Not so radical, really. Just a .243 WSSM necked up to .264. In my working with it I have discovered a few things: 1) Long pointy bullets like Lapua Scenar and Berger's or any of the ballistic tipped ones do not like to feed out of the magazine. The easiest feeding ones have been the Sierra Game Kings and Pro Hunters, so far. 2) Longer bullets like the 129 and 140 grainers intrude into powder space. I don't even bother with the 155 grain Lapuas. 3) Using .25 WSSM cases for the different head stamp to keep from getting them mixed up with the .243 WSSM brass doesn't work. The shoulder angles are so different and the brass is so thick and hard that it will not blow the shoulder out unless loaded very hot! :scrutiny:

This project was to create a light, quick handling 6.5 bolt gun with 6.5 x 55 ballistics.. The donor rifle's stock is too heavy for the light part. The super short action and the 19" barrel make it pretty quick to swing and point. the 6.5 x 55 ballistics was setting the bar pretty low and was too easy to accomplish. Great groups have not been easy so far and 1-1/2" to 1-3/4" 3-round groups are the norm, so far. However, I have a lot of different powders and bullets to try yet. I'm just getting started, after all...:D
 
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