Redding 223 or 204 bushing dies for 222 mag?

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Pretty sure I’m going to do a 222 mag build. It was a toss up between that and the reg 222 Rem. But leaning towards the mag

I have Redding bushing dies for 204 Ruger and 223. I intend to buy an RCBS body die for the 222 Mag, as Redding doesn’t have any bushing dies in this cartridge. I assume that I can use either a 204 or 223 Redding bushing neck die and the same in their competition seating die.

Am I correct in my assumption? Which one would be better without doing any shoulder damage while neck sizing?

i load for many, many cartridges and all with Redding bushing dies, with the exception of a 6SLR, which came from R Whitley. Don’t want to deal with std dies anymore as I love the results and versatility of bushing dies.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. QM
 
Looks to me checking case drawings that the 223 would work for neck sizing. The 222 mag case is pretty much the same as far as the dimensions go except shorter at the neck shoulder junction and total case length is .060 shorter than the 223. It’s not necessary to size the neck all the way down anyway, so I’m thinking the Redding 223 dies will work.

Unfortunately Redding is closed this week so unable to call them. Hopefully someone here can advise me. Pretty sure I read a post saying this could be be done, but as usual I am unable to find it

thx again for any future input
 
The Redding .204 neck bushing die works fine for the .222 Mag. I tried it to make sure that the larger neck fits through the neck hole.
 
If you are referring to Redding Competition bullet seaters, a .204 seater will not work for the .222 Mag. because the floating sleeve in the competition seater closely encloses the case neck.and bullet. A .22 Mag case and .22 cal bullet are too big to fit.
 
Redding would tell you otherwise, but I used my Redding .223 Comp Seater for .222 and .223 for several years. You need to thoughtfully set the lock ring so you can reach min .222 to max .223.

I did this right up until I did a 100x100 batch comparison of concentricity between the Redding and RCBS. I sold the Redding.
 
I’ve had good luck with my neck and bullet run out, probably averaging .002, some less and some a little more. All much better than the old days with the std die sets. Anything over .004 becomes a foul shot. I do take my time and enjoy the whole brass prep procedure. It all has led to some rewarding groups. Unfortunately, my eyes aren’t as good as they used to be and my guns at times shoot better than I can. Still love the shooting and reloading game.

Thanks guys for the input,
Hoping some others will chime in
 
Be aware that the expander stem on a Redding .204 sizer is smaller than a .223 stem. I'm talking about the threaded stem itself, not the expander ball (which is of course also smaller). Not an issue unless you plan to use an expander. If you do, you need the .223 size nut/stem/ball.
 
Haven’t used the expander since getting bushing dies. When setting the shoulder back, if needed I remove the stem and expander to do so. If I were to buy the dies again, I would just buy body dies.
 
I figured on calling them.
I did find out that Forster makes a seating die similar to Reddings comp seating one. Some reviews are not great on it though. I’m sure Redding will enlighten me. They have helped in the past. Good guys. Meant a few of them at the Shot Show in 2017
 
I did find out that Forster makes a seating die similar to Reddings comp seating one. Some reviews are not great on it though
The Foster Competition seaters are very good. The Whidden is similar and a couple of parts interchange but the Whidden has a floating seater stem which I really like. Both are good though.
 

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Ordered a Forster seating die from Grafs. Whidden doesn’t make anything for 222 mag. Forster makes a die similar to Reddings type S sizing die, where one can set the shoulder back and bush the necks also, but they or no one else seems to have one in stock. I’m hoping one of my Redding bushing neck dies will work for that process. I think it will. Might just have to adjust the die vertically. Keeping my fingers crossed
Thanks to all for taking an interest. QM
 
If you get the Forster "bushing bump" die sooner or later you will have to size the body as the case forms to the chamber and work hardening keeps it from rebounding enough to be easily extracted and chambered the next time. Bump the shoulder or not, it's still just a neck sizing die. And over do the "bump" you can bulge the shoulder if it isn't supported enough.

I have one, don't use it, I replaced it with a FL Bushing type die, in this case (.308), a Redding "S" type FL sizer.
 

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The problem is that Redding doesn’t have any bushing dies for 222 mag. Wish they did. I have a fortune tied up in Redding dies. Right now I couldn’t tell you how many different cartridgesI Ioad for, but venture to say 18-20. Have type S FL, comp bushing neck dies, and comp seating dies for all of them except my 6SLR, which I got from Whidden, which are excellant dies also.
Hopefully I won’t need the bushing bump die if all my plans work out. I do have an RCBS FL die for it to bump the shoulder back. Thx for the info. QM
 
I use a standard RCBS FL sizer with a carbide expander for .222 Mag. Shoots pretty well for all the miles on it.
 
I guess we’ll play it by ear. Prob be 3 months b-4 I get the rifle, so lots of time to ponder, unless Brunos or Kreiger can get it to me sooner.
Maybe a little redundant, but going to have a reg 222 Rem built also
 
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