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I started Monday with 7 days of vacation and Ohio gun week and it’s been a lot of ups and downs. Friday I tried getting tires on my truck and taking advantage of a Black Friday deal and Walmart says they have them and then they only have two so sell us 2 wrong ones and send us to another Walmart for the other 2 tires and it messed up the entire week.

Monday I only hunted the evening and sat on the edge of a corn field and saw twin buttons and a big old doe but didn’t take a shot. Tuesday they said tires would arrive in AM so I took the morning off and still no tires. I also wanted to shoot the 45-70 again cause it was acting up. One of my buddies asked if I wanted to go with him to their lease but I needed to shoot and get tires. Tuesday afternoon I was sitting in the stand one of our hunting party members shot 2 deer out of that AM while
I was waiting on Walmart. Around 3pm I hear a weird noise behind me and it’s coyote responding to a siren. I then catch movement and here comes a coyote. I wait till he comes in closer and center the ruger American go wild 450bm and click! I rack another round and the dog bolts. I woof at him several times and he stops and I send a Hornady FTX at him at 70-80yards and he drops. I saw a big doe I planned on taking her and hear a shot. My buddy got a 4pt and needed help. I knew the other buddy worked at 11pm and didn’t want to keep him out all night messing with two deer. I passed on her and went to help my buddy. I then hear another shot and my other buddy blasts a button buck. 2 deer and a coyote on the ground.

Wednesday the wind was bad and I stayed home and tried to do tires but again now only 2 arrived.

Thursday I get a call right before leaving to hunt that all 4 tires are in so I didn’t hunt and did tires.

Friday the honey do list took over and no hunting.

Today I headed to the same stand I shot the coyote from and we stumble upon a gut pile. There is 2 other guys not part of the lease who only gun hunt and they must have gotten one. I slip in between two bedding areas and into the stand and sit and wait. I hear noise behind me and squirrel start freaking out barking. I think coyote. Nothing shows and then have to pee really badly, look around and stand up, hang the gun and let it rip. I hear leaves and look at my 10pm and here comes a doe. I finish, zip and sit back down and try and get comfortable for the shot. She begins to walk down hill into a creek bottom and I settle the 450bm scope behind the shoulder and let it rip. I kind of rushed the shot and wasn’t comfortable so panicked. She face plants and can’t make it up the hill and I see 4-5 tails pop up in the bedding area and head for the field. I couldn’t see which one was my deer and being 345pm I figure check for blood and if none continue to hunt. I go to where she stood and not a drop. I then see leaves kicked around where she fell and there is white tissue in blood on a leaf. I panicked again and walked some more following blood and it got thick and then sparse. It then for really heavy and there she lay 40yards from where I shot her. I tagged her and climbed back in the stand to see what comes in. The shot broke both front shoulders, bud and I got her out of there and taking her to processor tomorrow.!
 

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I started Monday with 7 days of vacation and Ohio gun week and it’s been a lot of ups and downs. Friday I tried getting tires on my truck and taking advantage of a Black Friday deal and Walmart says they have them and then they only have two so sell us 2 wrong ones and send us to another Walmart for the other 2 tires and it messed up the entire week.

Monday I only hunted the evening and sat on the edge of a corn field and saw twin buttons and a big old doe but didn’t take a shot. Tuesday they said tires would arrive in AM so I took the morning off and still no tires. I also wanted to shoot the 45-70 again cause it was acting up. One of my buddies asked if I wanted to go with him to their lease but I needed to shoot and get tires. Tuesday afternoon I was sitting in the stand one of our hunting party members shot 2 deer out of that AM while
I was waiting on Walmart. Around 3pm I hear a weird noise behind me and it’s coyote responding to a siren. I then catch movement and here comes a coyote. I wait till he comes in closer and center the ruger American go wild 450bm and click! I rack another round and the dog bolts. I woof at him several times and he stops and I send a Hornady FTX at him at 70-80yards and he drops. I saw a big doe I planned on taking her and hear a shot. My buddy got a 4pt and needed help. I knew the other buddy worked at 11pm and didn’t want to keep him out all night messing with two deer. I passed on her and went to help my buddy. I then hear another shot and my other buddy blasts a button buck. 2 deer and a coyote on the ground.

Wednesday the wind was bad and I stayed home and tried to do tires but again now only 2 arrived.

Thursday I get a call right before leaving to hunt that all 4 tires are in so I didn’t hunt and did tires.

Friday the honey do list took over and no hunting.

Today I headed to the same stand I shot the coyote from and we stumble upon a gut pile. There is 2 other guys not part of our lease who only gun hunt and they must have gotten one. I slip in between two bedding areas and into the stand and sit and wait. I hear noise behind me and squirrel start freaking out barking. I think coyote. Nothing shows and then have to pee really badly, look around and stand up, hang the gun and let it rip. I hear leaves and look at my 10pm and here comes a doe. I finish, zip and sit back down and try and get comfortable for the shot. She begins to walk down hill into a creek bottom and I settle the 450bm scope behind the shoulder and let it rip. I kind of rushed the shot and wasn’t comfortable so panicked. She face plants and can’t make it up the hill and I see 4-5 tails pop up in the bedding area and head for the field. I couldn’t see which one was my deer and being 345pm I figure check for blood and if none continue to hunt. I go to where she stood and not a drop. I then see leaves kicked around where she fell and there is white tissue in blood on a leaf. I panicked again and walked some more following blood and it got thick and then sparse. It then for really heavy and there she lay 40yards from where I shot her. I tagged her and climbed back in the stand to see what comes in. The shot broke both front shoulders, bud and I got her out of there and taking her to processor tomorrow.!
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Congratulations on your doe. Great story. It's funny you talked about tires. I've changed about 150 since November 1. I misread tried to get them for tired of tires. I say that whenever I have to change a lot of them. Good luck with the time you have left to hunt.
 
Congrats on the coyote and doe. To bad you lost so much time on other issues and only have a one week season. But thats is how life goes and you have to flow with it.
How big of a area are your hunting? I have driven and flew uver Ohio quite a few yimes and it lookd mostly flat and small wood lots probably why they have the shotgun & straight walled rifle restriction in place.
I always wanted to hunt in Ohio every year there are monster bucks taken there. Must be minerals the deer take in for antler growth.

Enjoy you fine eating, are you going to get the coyote tanned? Sivco Fur Inc. does them really reasonable. For deer hide tanning i found prices from $80 to $200.
Sivco Fur Inc. is charging me $70.

You shot looked a little low and a little to.much forward on the deer ans a little to far bak on the coyote.
How are you hitting with it on paper shooting the same way you shoot from your stand?
Just courious.
 
Highland Lofts said:
Congrats on the coyote and doe. To bad you lost so much time on other issues and only have a one week season. But thats is how life goes and you have to flow with it.
How big of a area are your hunting? I have driven and flew uver Ohio quite a few yimes and it lookd mostly flat and small wood lots probably why they have the shotgun & straight walled rifle restriction in place.
I always wanted to hunt in Ohio every year there are monster bucks taken there. Must be minerals the deer take in for antler growth.

Enjoy you fine eating, are you going to get the coyote tanned? Sivco Fur Inc. does them really reasonable. For deer hide tanning i found prices from $80 to $200.
Sivco Fur Inc. is charging me $70.

You shot looked a little low and a little to.much forward on the deer ans a little to far bak on the coyote.
How are you hitting with it on paper shooting the same way you shoot from your stand?
Just courious.
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The coyote and doe both are exit wounds. The coyote was running from north to south and behind some brush. This farm has a lot of them and he came in with another and I panicked after the gun misfired. Initial shot was slightly back but after 3 spins he was down. The doe was hit in the opposite side and that came out the shoulder. Doe came from north heading south East. The entrance was slightly forward and almost hit the shoulder and a hair high. She was heading down a small ravine at my 3 o’clock and I was all contorted for the shot. Lungs were blown out. Paper it shoots 1-1.5” coyote is being tanned right now.

I’m in small woods with large fields. Ohio is very populated and lots of agricultural fields so no bottleneck rifles allowed. Too many guys do drives and sling lead as it is.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
The coyote and doe both are exit wounds. The coyote was running from north to south and behind some brush. This farm has a lot of them and he came in with another and I panicked after the gun misfired. Initial shot was slightly back but after 3 spins he was down. The doe was hit in the opposite side and that came out the shoulder. Doe came from north heading south East. The entrance was slightly forward and almost hit the shoulder and a hair high. She was heading down a small ravine at my 3 o’clock and I was all contorted for the shot. Lungs were blown out. Paper it shoots 1-1.5” coyote is being tanned right now.

I’m in small woods with large fields. Ohio is very populated and lots of agricultural fields so no bottleneck rifles allowed. Too many guys do drives and sling lead as it is.
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I had a tough shot yesterday deer was almost facing head on nose to the ground. Had only one shot high shoulder I took it. Result was dead deer. Good job on yours and for the test of your season.
 
stillquietvoice said:
I had a tough shot yesterday deer was almost facing head on nose to the ground. Had only one shot high shoulder I took it. Result was dead deer. Good job on yours and for the test of your season.
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Thanks! I’m out again today. My buddy and I counted 20 doe on his lease last night. I can kill 3 and usually give one away to a family who is struggling. I’m using a 44mag single shot tonight. Also congrats on your deer.
 
Sounds like a madhouse in your life. I even skip weddings for deer season. Friends and family are on notice, schedule it in November and you're getting a card LOL. I'm fortunate to work for a company that has a full service shop. Just write out a slip, and voila! new tires on the truck by the end of my shift and at wholesale/employee rate. Even if I didn't have this, would steer far clear of Wal Mart for any vehicle work. I've had to get a tire there in a pinch on the road, and it was a total S show. Lugs loosened up 2 miles down the freeway and almost caused real problems.

Congrats on the deer and coyote. Sounds like you've got some good lands to hunt.
 
Butcher says my doe weighed 97lbs hung. I got maybe enough to pack a small cooler. I am really debating on getting the stuff to do my own and watch some YouTube videos from the bearded butchers. I filled 1/4-1/2 a 27gal tote.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
Butcher says my doe weighed 97lbs hung. I got maybe enough to pack a small cooler. I am really debating on getting the stuff to do my own and watch some YouTube videos from the bearded butchers. I filled 1/4-1/2 a 27gal tote.
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Do it! Growing up, I had some inkling on how to butcher...we always did our own deer...but being a kid I was always relegated to the trim table, and had only graduated to skinning when I went out on my own. My very first solo deer was done with a library book open on the tailgate of my pickup on a piece of plywood and the help of a friend less experienced than I. Fortunately, the book already had a few blood stains, so I didn't feel bad about adding a few of my own.

You don't need fancy gear. A good stiff field knife kept very sharp, skinning gambrel/rope/swivel, a Forschener semi-stiff boning knife, butcher paper, tape, and a few tubs are the basics. You can gear up with quality stuff for less than the cost of a single deer processed. You'll gain a whole new appreciation for shot placement and bullet/velocity selection once you bone out a couple of bloodshot shoulders. There was a thread on here recently on the subject of home butchering with a lot of good information. I basically wrote a fairly thorough how to section in a post. You might find that one and run with it. You can always grind your oopsies!

Looked at the "Bearded butchers". I'd recommend this series instead. Simple, basic, this guy knows what he's doing.
 
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Random 8 said:
Do it! Growing up, I had some inkling on how to butcher...we always did our own deer...but being a kid I was always relegated to the trim table, and had only graduated to skinning when I went out on my own. My very first solo deer was done with a library book open on the tailgate of my pickup on a piece of plywood and the help of a friend less experienced than I. Fortunately, the book already had a few blood stains, so I didn't feel bad about adding a few of my own.

You don't need fancy gear. A good stiff field knife kept very sharp, skinning gambrel/rope/swivel, a Forschener semi-stiff boning knife, butcher paper, tape, and a few tubs are the basics. You can gear up with quality stuff for less than the cost of a single deer processed. You'll gain a whole new appreciation for shot placement and bullet/velocity selection once you bone out a couple of bloodshot shoulders. There was a thread on here recently on the subject of home butchering with a lot of good information. I basically wrote a fairly thorough how to section in a post. You might find that one and run with it. You can always grind your oopsies!

Looked at the "Bearded butchers". I'd recommend this series instead. Simple, basic, this guy knows what he's doing.
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My wife asked me this season why I don't process my own deer. Told her I can skin and quarter, but don't know enough about meat cuts to do the rest. My SIL does mine and we split the meat. I share mine with the rest of the family. My wife doesn't like venison much but, o do do I keep what I know I'll cook and eat. Er all benefit from the harvest.
 
stillquietvoice said:
My wife asked me this season why I don't process my own deer. Told her I can skin and quarter, but don't know enough about meat cuts to do the rest. My SIL does mine and we split the meat. I share mine with the rest of the family. My wife doesn't like venison much but, o do do I keep what I know I'll cook and eat. Er all benefit from the harvest.
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That’s why I never do it. I wouldn’t know what to cut and what not to cut. I know fat and stuff goes but what about everything else? My guy charges $75 if under 150lbs. If over 150lbs its $90. I’ve never shot anything under 120lbs so wasn’t sure what to expect getting back.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
Butcher says my doe weighed 97lbs hung. I got maybe enough to pack a small cooler. I am really debating on getting the stuff to do my own and watch some YouTube videos from the bearded butchers. I filled 1/4-1/2 a 27gal tote.
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The commercial processors have zero incentive to get the most out of the deer, they just want to get it done quick. Get the tools man, you won't regret it.
 
stillquietvoice said:
My wife asked me this season why I don't process my own deer. Told her I can skin and quarter, but don't know enough about meat cuts to do the rest. My SIL does mine and we split the meat. I share mine with the rest of the family. My wife doesn't like venison much but, o do do I keep what I know I'll cook and eat. Er all benefit from the harvest.
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ohihunter2014 said:
That’s why I never do it. I wouldn’t know what to cut and what not to cut. I know fat and stuff goes but what about everything else? My guy charges $75 if under 150lbs. If over 150lbs its $90. I’ve never shot anything under 120lbs so wasn’t sure what to expect getting back.
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Everything on the deer is edible. There's nothing you can mess up that isn't salvageable. Watch some videos and then just go for it. After a few, you'll develop a better idea of the best places to cut to get what you want.
 
I hunted all last week here in Pa. saw one deer but couldn't get a clean shot! Was out Mon. and Wed. didn't see anything. Wednesday around 3:50 pm I decided to leave my blind and sit by the barn. Nothing came out into the meadow. I happened to turn around and saw a doe coming out of the woods and moving towards the pasture in back of me. I slowly and quietly stalked towards the pasture and around towards the rear of a wood shed. When I looked into the pasture I could see a faint sighting of the doe approx. 200 yards away. I decide to stalk towards her for a better shot. The doe disappeared over a knoll so I had to stalk to where I had a shot. Now the sun is starting to go down and the hunt for the day almost at an end. I reached the knoll and stood up. There she was about 75 to 90 yards away so I took the shot. She went down like a sack of potatoes! DOE.jpg
Sorry about the dark picture but I had to get the tractor for some light to gut.
 
bearcreek said:
Everything on the deer is edible.
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I don't know if everything is edible. I certainly don't eat everything. While odds are, nothing is going to kill you, there are things that are not the most appetizing. The simplest way to go about it is to take what you would want to eat. At your point in life, and as much meat as you have eaten, you most certainly know what looks appetizing to you. Make sure large pieces are cut perpendicular to the grain for tenderness. Anything that you will grind don;t matter. remove as much fat as you can and remove any "rind"{dried meat/membrane) on the surface that has formed from hanging. Anything possibly tainted from the shot, field dressing or butchering should be thrown too. This is what most butchers don't do. For two reasons, first it makes for less meat, second, it takes longer . You will find that by butchering your own and being selective, your venison will be much better fare. You will learn with experience which way the leg bones go and will be able to debone the hams faster. You will learn how far down on the leg to go before the meat gets so infused with tendons it's no longer worth the effort. Keep the meat cold as you cu it. If you are in a heated space and the meat is getting warm and mushy, put it in the freezer or back outside to firm up again. A good grinder is a must. Good knives are a must along with good cutting boards. Cutting on a piece of plywood will give you wood splinters.
 
buck460XVR said:
I don't know if everything is edible. I certainly don't eat everything.
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Edible isn't the same thing as palatable. There's literally nothing on a properly field dressed deer that will harm you if you eat it, (obviously this is assuming it's not spoiled or undercooked). My point was that a person can't be hurt by cutting a deer up the "wrong" way. I think some folks, (like the OP) get intimidated by the process because they think it must be done a certain way, they think they must know the proper "cuts" of meat, etc. Other than the first two, I've processed every deer I've ever killed (pushing 100+ at this point) and helped other people process theirs. I couldn't tell you what any of the cuts are called. You give excellent advice though. Only thing I'd add is to get a turkey fryer and use it to cook down the ribs and bones. Saves time processing because you don't need to be as picky while boning and it drastically cuts down on waste. :thumbup:
 
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