Kel-Tec P17

Kel tec is notorious for releasing guns that you can't actually buy since they have only made a handful.

I'd guess a year before it can be somewhat easily bought

Antihero said:

Kel tec is notorious for releasing guns that you can't actually buy since they have only made a handful.

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LoL...no, Kel-Tec is making as many as they can, they're just popular items.

I took the factory tour a few years ago, when the KSG was in high demand.
Along the wall of one of the long hallways, ran a stack of hundreds of
KSG packing boxes, already folded/assembled, ready to accept a completed
shotgun.

Kellegren (owner of Keltec) from what I’ve heard doesn’t borrow money so Keltec is always behind on what gun owners see as a typical volume out of the gate on a new release.

If this is the case, kudos to him; easy to survive regulation or a downturn in the economy when debt free.

so I assume you are not seeing volume of P17’s as it’s a newer release for them. I’m sure they also (like Palmetto) want to release slow and get the products in less consumers hands initially so a recall doesn’t effect a lot of firearms before they can change their production line.

Thought this was a good review.

Monster Zero said:

Go look at... the usual online places and they all say "allocated", IOW sold out.
So what's up? Production not meeting demand?

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It's not just the usual poor availability: there are no guns, period. I think this time the production is stopped for a redesign. The initial batch was very problematic. At least this is the rumor at KTOG.

Steve762us said:

LoL...no, Kel-Tec is making as many as they can, they're just popular items.

I took the factory tour a few years ago, when the KSG was in high demand.
Along the wall of one of the long hallways, ran a stack of hundreds of
KSG packing boxes, already folded/assembled, ready to accept a completed
shotgun.

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I think what Antihero meant is while Keltec is producing hundreds of guns that are in "high demand", someone like Ruger or S&W is producing thousands of guns that are in high demand. That makes Kel Tec's pretty scarce for that first year or so after a new model is launched.

bassjam said:

I think what Antihero meant is while Keltec is producing hundreds of guns that are in "high demand", someone like Ruger or S&W is producing thousands of guns that are in high demand. That makes Kel Tec's pretty scarce for that first year or so after a new model is launched.

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That's exactly what I mean. I ordered a pmr30 right away and I had to wait many months for it. Someone offered me double what I just paid for it as I was walking out the door of the gun shop too