Let's see those competition target guns from the past

ApacheCoTodd said:

That is BRILLIANT!
What kind of load did you shoot through that?

Todd.

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I don't have my old Hornady book anymore or the misc load sheets I got from some other shooters back then, but I did save some chrony notes from some bench range testing I did with my loads. The cool thing about the Coonan is no B/C gap, and mine had about a 3/4" longer barrel than stock for my longer compensator. Also, the comp was so efficient I was only using a 12 lb. spring so (muzzle blast) felt recoil was honestly less than just the slide cycling.

My load(s) chrony data:

180 gr. FMJ FN @ 1380 fps - 761 fpe
158 gr. JSP @ 1425 fps - 712 fpe
125 gr. JHP @ 1660 fps - 765 fpe
110 gr. JHP @ 1845 fps - 831 fpe

Best as I can remember Federal had some really hot red boxed "High Power" factory 125 JHP loads that also ran pretty close to 1700 fps out of the Coonans back then. There were some stiff factory loads back in the day..lol

A bit of history on this 510 single shot Remington. It was my first firearm, given to me in 1945 by a close family friend. I not only learned to shoot on this rifle, but, after mounting a B4x Weaver scope, taught my bride-to-be how to shoot. A dozen, or so years later, I cut the factory stock and barrel to fit my 6 year old son to learn firearms safety & marksmanship.



Yep, it's the same little rifle introduced above which I put in a 513T stock and mounted redfield aperture sights to teach the younger kids in our DCM Jr division marksmanship. Many of the youngsters were simply too small to hold up the heavy 44US (Mossberg) rifles issued by DCM, but the little rifle was a perfect fit.

When the grandkids came along, yep, the little 513 jr came out of retirement one more time and proved up to the task and has since been passed on to that 3rd generation.

Here's another oldie that passed through my hands after many years of smallbore service that still held it's own in competition. Prone stocked single shot Mod. 52, weighed in just under 20# IIRC,


So, don't sell the "old target rifles" short. Many "over the hill" old rifles in boring, "obsolete" calibers, such as 30-06, or even .308 Win. are languishing in a dark corner of a safe somewhere. But wait, don't fool yourself, they are still capable of giving the fancy new fangled rifles in calibers starting with exotic numbers such as 6.5, followed by "mm" and ending in catchy names such as Grendel, Creedmore, etc. a run for their money.


Regards,
hps

patmccoy said:

Turn of the century (the last one, not this one) smallbore Schuetzen rifle.

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Details on that rifle? That's a beauty.

Slamfire said:

With that Lyman Superscope, I shot this 100 yard match targets during the any sights day during a regional. This is a 400-32X, prone with sling.

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Gotta love the 37's. Good shooting!

Regards,
hps

ApacheCoTodd said:

An unfortunately, past-her-prime .22-250 on the prettiest VZ-24 Mauser action I have ever seen. The bore is still good but when I cut it and re-chamber, I will sadly lose the Southwestern Gun Shop logo.
Too, time for that ancient Benchrest stock to go or at least be slimmed down.

Maybe old-school *varmit* in her next life.

Todd.
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Never shot benchrest, but lock time would not be all that important so the Mauser should do well.

In an effort to save match rifle barrels, I took a worn our barrel from my #1 Mod. 70, had it cut/fit to an 03A3 action, built a target stock closely resembling my Mod 70 stocks for a practice rifle. Put a Timney trigger on it and used mostly for offhand practice. The 03 action not nearly as smooth as my well-worn Mod 70's so wasn't suitable for rapid fire. Worked great, but longer lock time was enough longer than the Winchesters that I was always one ring outside my call shooting offhand (did not "dehorn" the bolt). Did save a lot of wear and tear on my match rifle barrels (it shot as well off a rest as the Mod 70's).



Regards,
hps

Not a shotgun shooter, but that is a real work of art!

Regards,
hps

That is a beautiful shotgun. I would love to own and shoot that one.

My M-2 from 1942 and M75 from 1949.... Yeah, I KNOW, it's not a 52 but I probably wouldn't shoot a 52 any better anyhow.

Todd.

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Picked up the top one quiet a while ago, shoots so well, I just had to scoop the bottom one up when I found it for sale online recently. The top one is an absolute tack driver. Too bad there isn't really a place for the old PPC customs anymore, they are a ton of fun at the range

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Are the PPC/WA1500 guns particularly different these days?
I've lost track these last 20 years or so.

Todd.

Another. A 13.6 pound beast for Service Rifle.

Absolute wonder to shoot.

Todd.

Rembrandt said:

Browning Pidgeon Grade Superposed, Broadway Trap. This was a glitzy competition trap gun back before screw in chokes became popular. The Broadway Trap models utilized an extra wide vent rib. They pretty much fell by the wayside when choke tubes and multi-barrel multi-gauge units dominated the competitive circuits. For nearly 50 years these were top of the line trap guns.

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And there are many Suerposeds still in use today for ATA, Bunker, and skeet. With Briley thinwalls installed, they are great for sporting clays.

I've still got my Broadway Trap, it was mainly my doubles gun. The old 1100 was just so much softer to shoot at singles and handicap but the ker-chunk of the action distracted me at doubles.

Happily found this one while rummaging through things today.
We had this and at least two others on our rifle team in school. You had to prove your mettle on them with standard brick-box Federal before you could advance to the premium rifles and match ammo.

These Stevens 66-Bs were hugely underrated in their performance if they were well cared for. Of course, because of attitudes, they would not be as pampered as the premium guns and so... would return less than stellar results for some shooters.

Here, the benefit was two-fold. The coaches could identify marksmanship through technique and results as well as noting how much respect was shown the rifle. Neglect the rifle because of perceptions of its worth and it spanks you with potentially crappy results.

Wonderful sights. The intermediate *safari* rear folds down when not in use as in the picture. The rear peep has three different optional apertures selected by merely sliding the cover. The ramped and hooded front has interchangeable posts.

Then, add to it all that it is deliberately over-styled to directly mimic a full-sized rifle with pretty good but not excessive heft.

A real treasure should you ever come across one. Though, don't buy one without a rear sight thinking you'll find it later. You'll merely join the legion of owners already doing that.

Todd.

Great thread! My passion over the past fifty years in terms of shooting has always been Bullseye competition. I've done my share of "tactical" shooting during my thirty year le career and shot in a trap league for a few years but "paper-punching" with pistols and rifles has been and always will be my favorite way to dirty a bore.

What an awesome thread! These are some of my favorite rifles to collect.

Carl Gustaf CG63

Hämmerli National Match

Jessesky said:

What an awesome thread! These are some of my favorite rifles to collect.

Carl Gustaf CG63

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Beautiful.
Do you have a detail shot of the CG's rear sight?

Todd.

Two more Target/Match Colts.

Made specifically for the ISSF in .38 Special, The National Match - .38 Special Mid-Range "Bull's Eye" 1911. I wish that I had a Model 52 Smith & Wesson to go with the Colt. Perhaps someone will post one.
and
Colt, Caliber .22 Target Model - or "Pre Woodsman". For 1922, it was a lot of mass-produced accuracy for the dollar.

Todd.

ApacheCoTodd said:

Beautiful.
Do you have a detail shot of the CG's rear sight?

Todd.

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Sure thing. It’s set to fire 140gr at 830m/s . So M41 6.5x55

Jessesky said:

Sure thing. It’s set to fire 140gr at 830m/s . So M41 6.5x55
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That is really something. I've never in my life, seen a sight quite like that.
Thank you for taking the time.
The bedding detail is a joy to behold as well.

Todd.

My Model 41 with custom grips, from my Bullseye days.

TOZ, from my brief foray into free pistol competition.

And my poor old 686, set up as a Bianchi cup gun by a grand old man of the shooting game, now passed on for many years. I can't begin to count the number of rounds this gun has seen. It taught me how to shoot under pressure, but now rattles like a WWI 1911.

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Picked up the top one quiet a while ago, shoots so well, I just had to scoop the bottom one up when I found it for sale online recently. The top one is an absolute tack driver. Too bad there isn't really a place for the old PPC customs anymore, they are a ton of fun at the range

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I had a Jarvis PPC gun built on a Model 10, with a Tri-Set rib and a roller trigger. By God that gun would hit. It was stolen, along with a bunch of others, around 20 years ago. I can scarcely remember the others, but what I would give to have that one back!