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Scrapiron45 · Dec 15, 2019

I have an Ortiges pistol chambered in 7.65mm. According to my research it is the fifth variant, fourth address model with the optional button safety. The serial number is 62xxx with Germany underneath. Going by what I've read this would indicate it was built for export. The barrel extends about 3/8" past the end of the slide with a machined dimple in it that appears made for a silencer to attach to. The numbers on the barrel, slide, and frame all match. My question is who might have ordered this pistol, specifically with the optional safety and silencer? Haven't been able to find a picture of another with the extended barrel. I guess I'm trying to make something interesting and exciting out of a pawn shop pistol.
Many thanks.

jar · Dec 15, 2019

No idea about your questions but Ortgies sure are fun and accurate.

Archie · Dec 20, 2019

I have a couple in my collection and I've seen a few others of the Ortgies. Never witnessed one (or read about one) with a barrel longer than slide. As the barrel is firmly mounted to the frame (blowback design) that barrel would have to made like that from the beginning. Welding or silvering an extension would be problematic. And likely easy to identify.

All the Ortgies were marked Germany in English. Seemingly the pistols were expected to be exported to the US. Not all were, but a good percentage.

Describe or photograph the optional safety, please. The design always had a safety, the button at the top rear of the frame with the release taking the place (and appearance) of the grip safety in many other designs. No idea about a suppressor. But a fixed barrel blowback pistol would be a good candidate for mounting one and a low pressure cartridge would be easy to hush.

bikerdoc · Dec 20, 2019

Interesting firearm. Never owned one but saw several growing up that were carried by the old guys that hung out with my grandpa. This was about 1958 to 1963.

22250Rem · Dec 21, 2019

I've always been somewhat interested in them also. Have only seen a few over the years and it piqued my interest. I've heard they were of decent quality but weren't exactly "high end" guns. Haven't seen any in a couple decades and the last one was found hidden in a basement between the basement rafters at the top of the basement wall by a plumber who was there working on a rehab. It was quite dusty but rust free and IIRC it was also in 7.65 mm.. If I ever come across a decent one and the price is right I could see myself owning it just to satisfy my curiosity.

Scrapiron45 · Dec 21, 2019

One of my searches turned up an article on a site called handgunsoftheworld. com. It showed a picture of the button safety model and suggested that it may have been requested by military or police groups. Evidently the second button, which sat in a cutout at the top of the left grip panel, was designed to block the regular grip safety. This second safety interfeared with the spring latch that held the grip panels on so on these models the panels were held in place with a screw.
The way the barrels attached to the frame was interesting in that it fit into a dovetail and could be removed from the frame by turning it 90 degrees and lifting it out. You were supposed to be able to interchange the 32 and. 380 barrels. Mine is numbered to match the frame.
I shot mine the other and as someone else said, it's fun to shoot and accurate too, cool little gun.

ApacheCoTodd · Dec 27, 2019

Love to see some photographs of that one.

Todd.

MI2600 · Dec 28, 2019

In my "wild and crazy" younger days, I picked up three Ortgies. I haven't fired them in years and to be honest I didn't know the .380 existed. From a brief search, it appears the change from .32 to .380 only requires the barrel and the magazine. Of course, the barrels appear to be unobtainium.
Anyone know of a source?

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