6.5 Creedmoor Issues

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I’ve been mainly loading 6.5 bullets for a Tikka 260 CTR. I picked up a Tikka 6.5 cm for the wife to use when not using her 7-08. Both guns have been easy to load for. Throw between 41 and 43 grains of H4350 behind any 140 grain bullet and they shoot pretty much sub moa all day long.
I was able to get the 130 accubond to shoot .3 groups out of the 260. I’m trying my best to get the 129 long range accubond to shoot out of the creedmoor. Only one grain difference in the bullet but 2 inch groups at best. I’d bought a few hundred of these for 6.5 Grendel which I had problems with also. has anyone tried a different powder on the lr accubonds. I’m at wits end on these. I’ve seated longer, shorter. Ran powder charges in .5 increments from minimum to maximum. I think they would make a great hunting round in this rifle if I can ever get them to work. Going to try some Alliant powder for a change but I’m not holding my breath.
 
Ive not used the ABLRs in 6.5 yet, used them in .270 and 280AI. The .270 was under twisted but still shot 1-1.25" groups at 100yds, but then scattered shots at 400. The 280AI was a little undertwisted also i believe, and would group very well as long as i didnt make any mistakes. If i let it bounce even a little the flyer would be a few inches out of the group.

In both cases i was right at the lands, and my powder charges were at max for my rifles.

I dont think twist is an issue for your guns. You may want to look at exactly where the bullets are in relation to the lands on your guns, and check bullet run out. The long vlds seem to be more sensitive.
 
So far with all these Tikkas they have preferred a jump to the lands. I started out short and worked up long enough to have to single feed. Shorter book data length done better for me. I’m out of the 130 accubonds to try but I’m thinking the ogive was fatter closer to the tip of the bullet verses the long range bullet. I ordered a bunch of Nosler ammo yesterday from Midway before their sale ends. I’ll check the accuracy of the 130 accubond to see if it does any different. Not giving up on the others yet. Chasing a good load sometimes takes a lot of bullets and powder. From chronograph readings all my sds are nowhere near as stable as the other bullets. I’ve ran some straight 140 ballistic tips that will stay in single digits. These are far from it. I’m thinking I may have to change powders and up the velocity on these. Even at Nosler max data primers were good and no sticky bolts. I’ve got an 8 twist. My Grendel AR has a 9 twist and I finally got 1.5 inch groups out of it finding one powder out of four that would do it. I’m still thinking the 8 twist should be sufficient for it.
 
I’ve got some Reloader 17 and 19. That and imr 4350 was my next try. Curious of range you shot accubonds at and damage they done. I hit one with a 7-08 this year with a 120 Barnes ttsx bullet I’d reloaded at about 85 yards. Got one lung and heart but had a 120 yard run with him. Left lots of blood but not much exit wound at all. Hoping the accubonds do better. Ordered up a bunch for the 7s also.
 
I’ve got some Reloader 17 and 19. That and imr 4350 was my next try. Curious of range you shot accubonds at and damage they done. I hit one with a 7-08 this year with a 120 Barnes ttsx bullet I’d reloaded at about 85 yards. Got one lung and heart but had a 120 yard run with him. Left lots of blood but not much exit wound at all. Hoping the accubonds do better. Ordered up a bunch for the 7s also.
I have taken deer out to 357 yards, (ranged) with several from 200 to 275. That was with the 130 gr Accubond. Probably taken over 20 with this bullet and it worked from 20 yards to 357. The 129 gr ABLR took 3. One at 60 yards and a couple around 175-200 yards. Good expansion and everything down within 50 yards. I personally like the standard Accubond the best, but the load with the LR matches the BDC in my Vortex out to 500 yards. Haven't tried the standard at that distance but it was on at 357.;)
 
I’ve got some Reloader 17 and 19. That and imr 4350 was my next try. Curious of range you shot accubonds at and damage they done. I hit one with a 7-08 this year with a 120 Barnes ttsx bullet I’d reloaded at about 85 yards. Got one lung and heart but had a 120 yard run with him. Left lots of blood but not much exit wound at all. Hoping the accubonds do better. Ordered up a bunch for the 7s also.
The coppers require high velocity/high resistance for massive damage and still will leave a tiny exit I like em for fur, for your 6.5 based on the data I found in a quick search I'd take a hard look at staball, and I have enough experience to recommend I4451 anytime I see it listed, it's done well with everything I've thrown at it so far, but flukes can happen too I suppose, good luck!
Eta on coppers, launching them 3000-3200 fps from my rubes has proven devastating, I go Uber light for caliber and uber high impact speeds.
 
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Horsey300, I use a lot of 4451 but it’s dedicated to a 300wsm. I never thought of using it in a cm. If I’m not mistaken I think the burn rate is real close to 4350.
 
Horsey300, I use a lot of 4451 but it’s dedicated to a 300wsm. I never thought of using it in a cm. If I’m not mistaken I think the burn rate is real close to 4350.
It is, I've never run 4350, but based on Hodgdon data, it'll gain you 45 fps, and so far 4451 likes to play near or at max......the other thing to note, your barrel may not be quite broke in yet, hard to say there. Also plausible, you got a bad batch (I.e. jacket uneven on one side etc). I'd personally try the 130s with 4451, then if they do well crank some 129s playing with oal then charge, my tgks are OK longer than my b tips, but are close in charge weights.
 
I’ll have to try some. In the 6.5 I need all the velocity I can get as long as accuracy doesn’t suffer. Buying it used and the barrel as clean as it was I’ve no idea if it had any use or no use. I sent the action off today so about 10-14 days before I get it back with a decent trigger. I’m going to load up some with the 4451 until the 130s get here.
 
I’ve never been able to get good groups with Superformance. Let us know how it does.

RL17 has always done well for me on 129 to 140 grain bullets, but I’ve never tried the Nosler Accubond.
 
I have not used that bullet in my 6.5CM. My powder of choice is the H4350 but have used Varget and RL-17. I mainly shoot 140gr ELD-M bullets in mine. I have shot some 130gr TMK that shot better with Varget than the H4350. My OAL is based on what fits my magazine. RL-17 has produced very good groups for me but the powder temp instability has stopped me from using it. The best accuracy is between 2700-2725 fps in my 24" barrel AR.
 
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