HK P7M10
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Back in ‘90-‘91 I had a P7M8 (9mm) that I sold along with 3 other guns so I could buy the P7M10 when it came out. The 40 was new and all the rage at that time. I absolutely loved my 9mm P7 and knew that the 40 would really rock. I placed my order through a gun shop in Dallas and was due to get the first one that came in.
When I got the call that it arrived I dropped everything and rushed over to pick it up. When the clerk presented it to me all of my heightened excitement drained from my body. I thought I was coming to pick up the Prom Queen, but rather a joke was played on me and I was presented the fat girl. That M10 was huge, a total epic fail. Fortunately the dealer did not make me take it and I told him to be on the lookout for another P7 nine.
Turns out that the rest of the shooting community thought the 40 would be the same size as the 9 also. They couldn’t give those 40’s away, thus very few were sold in the US and now they are collector’s guns with a huge price tag. Looks like I got screwed twice, sure wish I bought that bohemeth now.
When I got the call that it arrived I dropped everything and rushed over to pick it up. When the clerk presented it to me all of my heightened excitement drained from my body. I thought I was coming to pick up the Prom Queen, but rather a joke was played on me and I was presented the fat girl. That M10 was huge, a total epic fail. Fortunately the dealer did not make me take it and I told him to be on the lookout for another P7 nine.
Turns out that the rest of the shooting community thought the 40 would be the same size as the 9 also. They couldn’t give those 40’s away, thus very few were sold in the US and now they are collector’s guns with a huge price tag. Looks like I got screwed twice, sure wish I bought that bohemeth now.
I would have done the same thing. Great post. Gotta make you wonder what guns are available today that “may” be worth more later.
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I had a chance to shoot one at an H&K LE Demo day at out range.
It was unbelievable how bulky it was...what made it worst was how they added all the weight to the slide above the barrel. The original P7 was so tightly engineered that they couldn't offset the increased recoil in any other way. Interestingly the M10 used the same magazine as the M13...just the followers were different.
The really rare member of the P7 family is the M7. It was chamber in .45ACP and replaced the gas piston/chamber with an oil filled chamber. It was much more svelte that the M10, handled very well and was very accurate. As far as I know, there is only one example still in North America.
It was unbelievable how bulky it was...what made it worst was how they added all the weight to the slide above the barrel. The original P7 was so tightly engineered that they couldn't offset the increased recoil in any other way. Interestingly the M10 used the same magazine as the M13...just the followers were different.
The really rare member of the P7 family is the M7. It was chamber in .45ACP and replaced the gas piston/chamber with an oil filled chamber. It was much more svelte that the M10, handled very well and was very accurate. As far as I know, there is only one example still in North America.
earlthegoat2
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The .380 .32 and .22 versions are pretty rare too.
Yes, but I've seen a couple of those
Glad you brought that up.
When the Clinton gun and hi cap mag hit, M13 mags were hard to find. If you found any, scalpers wanted $150-$250 a piece. I found a dealer with 6 M10 mags for a crazy cheap price and jumped on them! They work great in my M13.
Yup, you gotta be resourceful or pay outrageous prices.
When we couldn't get 15 round 9mm magazines for the Beretta 92, we could get the 10 round .40 magazines for the 96
BruiseLee
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Wait a minute. As a proud HK-P7M8 owner I feel I have to speak up here. OK, the P7 is gas operated, the High Point is just blow back operated. The HP is polymer and zinc, the HK is all steel. The HP is one of the cheapest handguns you can buy, the P7 is way more on the expensive side. Seriously, the P7's magazines are almost as expensive as a HP. pistol. Does the HP have a squeeze cocker? No. Does the HP have a fixed hammer forged polygonal barrel? No. Is the HP made in West Germany? No. Was it used by the German GSG 9. No. I mean the HK P7 has nothing in common with the High Point other than they will both fire 9mm. Anyone who wants to trade me their HK-P7 for a new High Point please PM me. Thank you.
Just saying it looks clunky like a high point. This model is a 40 S&W. I like all guns.
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I had the "clunkier version" of the M8, the M13, and it was anything but clunky. It was probably the most accurate auto handgun Ive ever owned, and a very shootable gun too. They really are a piece of mechanical art when you actually have one in your hand.
Just a bit to different for most shooters, and especially those who werent familiar with them, and in some respects, even if you were.
Quite a few of the people who tried to shoot mine, had trouble keeping it in their head, that they had to hold the squeeze cocker in all the time, and not release it and recock it for each shot.
I always felt that you either carried a P7, or you carried anything else. They are by no means hard to shoot or learn to shoot, but you need that cocking stroke ingrained deeply into your brain for things to work without thought.
I agree!
I don’t get the difficulty in adjusting to shooting the P7. To me it is just so natural, and I’m a big 1911 guy, not quite a fanboy. I love how the squeeze lever is your safety, slide release, and cocker all rolled into one. It’s too bad such a great gun was and is out of reach for most people due to price. Otherwise it would have a huge following.
Kano383
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The P7 M10 is a brick, there's no denying it. But comparing it to a Hi-Point is just as fair as saying that a Mercedes-Benz G-Wagen is a Land Rover... 
Rock185
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I've had a P7 and P7M8. When those P7M10s came out, they had so much mass added to the slide to control the much greater .40 S&W recoil impulse that the gun got much heavier, and to me, looked ill-proportioned, and yes, "clunky". Common .40 S&W 180 grain @ 1000 FPS ammo has about 30% more recoil impulse than something like 9mm 115 @ 1200. I suspect a more svelte slide could have been used, but M10 service life might have been reduced....ymmv
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