Ridiculous idea. First he has a 45 Colt cylinder readily capable of 44 mag level loads and second reaming for 460 would prevent the ability to shoot 45 ACPWell that would be a good idea, because the Rowland could produce almost 44 mag levels of velocity and energy.
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Certainly, an all metal revolver with changeable quality grips, and a second cylinder will cost more than a polymer framed pistol with a stamped metal fire control, a plastic trigger, and if you never buy any spare magazines . . .
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I’m kinda weird. I like long slides on autos. And I love long barrels on SAAs and 1860s. But I prefer shorter barrels on Remingtons and Ruger blackhawks, and DA smiths. No accounting for taste. *shrug*Yea, me too.
Long barreled handguns just seem, unnatural.
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Very nice I have a blackhawk .45 convertible with a 4 5/8 barrel. I mostly shoot .45 scp from my revolver. It's very accurate with a 200 lswc and 5.5 grains of bullseye.
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What all of the "get a Glock" folks don't realize is that for most of us, the probability of needing 18 rounds and a 33 round reload are just about as high for most of us as being hit by an asteroid.
A large bore single-action revolver, in the hands of someone who has spent the time to master it, is quite capable of meeting the needs for self-defense that most of us might face. I am not talking about military or law enforcement requirements, or those living in the hell hole of South Chicago or Compton, but rather those of the average Joe living in a non-sucky suburban or rural environment. Prepare for the 99.999% reality that most of us face.
A large bore single-action revolver, in the hands of someone who has spent the time to master it, is quite capable of meeting the needs for self-defense that most of us might face. I am not talking about military or law enforcement requirements, or those living in the hell hole of South Chicago or Compton, but rather those of the average Joe living in a non-sucky suburban or rural environment. Prepare for the 99.999% reality that most of us face.
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A few things should've been obvious. First, the gun is a convertible. Not only did I mention that but the third pic clearly shows an extra cylinder in the box. Second, I never said this gun was intended for self defense. If I somehow implied it, then I apologize because that was not my intent. Third, even if it was intended for self defense, I would have no intentions of engaging the "buy a Glock" rhetoric. Been there, done that, many times. Not here.
Because it's off topic and irrelevant.
Bingo!
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Might cost twice as much but it's five times as cool. And not to be nit picky or anything, but with training you can swap 45 acp moonclips in a double action dang near as fast as an auto pistol mag. Doesn't help in Craig's pistol, but I would carry that gun in certain defensive capacities, reloads be d#!ned.
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Not necessarily, although it most likely be harder to eject the brass though.
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Alright, I'm tired of all the Glock talk in this thread and I didn't even make the thread, so from this point forward no more Glock talk. If I see the G word dropped one more time...
EDIT: Obviously, I'm joking, but enough with the Gaston.
EDIT: Obviously, I'm joking, but enough with the Gaston.
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It's a single action .1" too much headspace and the FP won't hit the primer with enough force, but the ejector rod will work just fine to get the unfired rounds out.Not necessarily, although it most likely be harder to eject the brass though.
And here I thought the Glock comment was dumb.
Get a Glock and in other news a Toyota Camry is more practical than a '68 Vette and water is wet.
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Well you're correct, but it's been done with DA wheelguns with swing out cylinders, now if you were to use a Phillips & Rodgers style cylinder it would eliminate a lot of problems, IIRC they did make aftermarket cylinders for BH/Vaqueros in .357 diameter, I know made them for S&W.
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CraigC
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.45Super would work because the case is the same length but the .460Rowland is longer. DA's get away with different case lengths because they use moon clips. Can't do that with a single action where it must headspace on the case mouth.
So you want to spend a bunch of money to get another cylinder (or modify one) to shoot a relatively obscure round that isn't as powerful as what's avaliable for his 45 Colt cylinder and is more expensive and not as readily available as really either round is?
I got a bridge in Cali I'll sell you.
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All of my S&W Double action .45 acp revolvers from my 1932 Commercial DA .45 to my 2017 PC 625 headspace on the case mouth. I routinely fire them without moon clips.
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CraigC
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I was thinking about guns like the Redhawk .45Colt that can run anything from ACP to Rowland and .45WinMag, due to the long chambers.
It also runs 8000psi over "Ruger only" pressures.
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I ordered some .45 Cowboy Special brass from Starline. Going this afternoon to get my blast cabinet out of storage. Then I'll start the process of roundbutting the grip frame, finishing it with a bead blast. I've got a #5 basepin and ramp front sight blade on the way. I'm just going to replace the whole rear sight and while I've got some late model steel sights, may use an old aluminum take-off to shave a few grains. At that point I can wring it out with some of the loads I want to use in it. I'll work on doing the aluminum Bisley grip frame later. Until then.....
At that point I can wring it out with some of the loads I want to use in it. I'll work on doing the aluminum Bisley grip frame later. Until then.....
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You do know that a Philips and Rogers style cylinder would be able use 45Colt/45S&W/45 WinMag/460Rowland/451Detonics/45 Super/45ACP/45 GAP(maybe even 454 Casull) right?, now at least with 45 ACP stock cylinder could shoot 45 Super/Super Comp/450 SMC. Heck there is member on another forum that I belong to, that litterally means "you would have to pry my M47 Medusa from my dead cold hands" and wishes that Philips and Rogers made a 45 Colt/454 Casull version before they went under.
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^Exactly there CraigC, you could 45 Super in the "CarryHawk", and mavracer has a point about might aswell use the 45 Colt cylinder, bu the point I making is to have "options" in ammo selection with the "CarryHawk".
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From a performance standpoint, it makes more sense to use .45Colt but then you wouldn't have the pleasure of those stubby ACP/Super cases punching out so quick and easy. It's something else to play with. I just received 500rds of .45 Cowboy Special brass from Starline and will probably mess with it more than the rimless options.
i had to sadly let go an otherwise nice ruger new vaquero 45acp because i never got used to its birdshead grips. i looked on various internet forums and even called ruger for a solution but came up empty. i just don’t have the ability to swap out frames as did o.p., who did a great job. luckily i happened on a lower priced, gently used blackhawk 45lc/acp convertible soon after.
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That's the last thing you want to do, brace the gun itself against something rigid!
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I’ve always wondered why the appeal of the convertible? I can load 45LC down to ACP levels.
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Yeah, me too. Thinking about selling a winchester I don't shoot to fund it, when I mentioned selling it to my wife she said, "great and we can use the money for a weekend vacation ". I laughed heartily and at great length and said, "nope". Not big on getting rid of nice guns but it's worth it for a fun gun I'd shoot a lot.
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