Have you ever had a rifle you didn't like?

A Remington 241 in .22 short. Couldn't hit the side of a barn if shot from inside the barn.
A Winchester 77 which was beautifully accurate decided to go full auto on me
A Colt AR-15 Match which I carried in the trunk of my car when I was a reserve officer. It stank just like the arms room at my old Army Reserve unit

Not really a rifle but accessories that changes the rifle.. When I purchased my 1919a4,



was not going to even get a tripod. Thought I was just always going to use the gun in the 1919a6 configuration. Loved that look ever since seeing the movie "Battleground".




Its is one of the coolest looks. America's mg-42. Total truth received the A6 parts before getting the 1919a4 delivered. But when you place the stock on that gun it was so difficult to handle and shoot.. No way could I even shoot it from my shoulder. The whole setup is just not designed for comfort or a good sight picture. Also that Israeli bi-pod scuffs up the barrel cover every time you put it on.

So could not get rid of the parts, still like the look, so they set in my garage just used a few times.

ApacheCoTodd said:

Growing up much in Minnesota... I HATED RemNylons!

Laying your cheek up against those of a cold winter's day sucked. Too, they were astoundingly noisy to carry in a winter woods. Seems like they used to make noises like they were self destructing when you brought them into the ice-house or cabin and they warmed up.

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I can't comment on winter use, but the Nylon was one of my favorite .22 rifles. Reliable, accurate, and fun to shoot. No durability issues.
But, in Minnesota, perhaps a Hudson's Bay Northwest gun would serve the residents better.

A rifle that I hated was my Savages Stevens repro Stevens Favorite.
These were pure junk.
The entire action was made from sintered castings and used a clothes-pin type spring as the hammer spring.
I used this gun until it literally fell apart, which happened in less than a brick of .22 LR.

Poper:
When Oswald moved to the Soviet Union, he was allowed to join a gun club (must have been a Very rare privilege).
Other club members reportedly said that Lee Harvey was not a good shot. I can't remember where I read this.

Do people actually equate an AK's or SKS' open sights with the >>aperture sights<< of a .223/5.56 AR having a 20" barrel?

And also beyond 100 yards or so? If these are the conditions, the validity of such a comparison baffles me.
If somebody has used a Tech Sight or Red Dot on an AK clone or SKS, this could be a better comparison--and Not a basic rifle (even a captured M4) in the hands of a jihadi holding a rifle over his head, while shooting over a wall...…...

Ignition Override said:

Do people actually equate an AK's or SKS' open sights with the >>aperture sights<< of a .223/5.56 AR having a 20" barrel?

And also beyond 100 yards or so? If these are the conditions, the validity of such a comparison baffles me.
If somebody has used a Tech Sight or Red Dot on an AK clone or SKS, this could be a better comparison--and Not a basic rifle (even a captured M4) in the hands of a jihadi holding a rifle over his head, while shooting over a wall...…...

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With my modified SKS Best groups i was getting was about 1.5-2" at 100.

The rifle I didn't like was a Remington model 7 in 243.It was light in the front with the thin 18 1/2 barrel which made it awful to shoot offhand.It also wouldn't group into less than 2 inches at 100 yards,and it shot 100 grain bullets at a blistering 1500 fps.I didn't sell it,although I came close a couple times.A couple years ago,I had a new 700SPS barrel chambered for .308 fall in my lap.I cut it off at 20 inches and gave it a contour that added just a little bit more weight towards the front and I reworked an old Ram-Line fiberglass stock for it.Those stocks had a lot of fat on them,but a sawzall and a 4 inch grinder worked it down enough to give me a start at making it into the thing of beauty that it is now.After it was all done,it will send 150 grain Swift Sciraccos at 2850 fps and three of them will hit within an inch of each other at 100 yards.It's now my #1 deer rifle.It went from hated to adored.

GALIL 556 -- Looked like a battle rifle, was a battle rifle. Expensive mags, too heavy, not as accurate as ours, more of a wallhanger to me. Sold it to a friend who wanted it badly at a handsome profit. Looked like this one:



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GALIL 556 -- Looked like a battle rifle, was a battle rifle. Expensive mags, too heavy, not as accurate as ours, more of a wallhanger to me. Sold it to a friend who wanted it badly at a handsome profit. Looked this one:

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I get it. makes me think of my multiple-Valmet adventure.

Todd.

Well I Can't agree about the 10/22 being jamomatic But
I bought a TC Compass 243 to have a quiet smooth rifle I could suppress
But man Smooth it is NOT
Bolt feel s like it s made out of soft plastic.

Yes it was cheap

Buy once cry once

Poper:
Roger that.
And let's remember Oswald's attempt to kill the retired Air Force colonel months earlier in Dallas. It was down from a driveway behind the house.
The single round he fired into that house might have deflected from a window structure, but Oswald didn't seem like any possible solution to "their problem".

Ignition Override said:

Poper:
When Oswald moved to the Soviet Union, he was allowed to join a gun club (must have been a Very rare privilege).
Other club members reportedly said that Lee Harvey was not a good shot. I can't remember where I read this.

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This is consistent with the fact that the initial examination of the rifle concluded it was not zeroed and could not be with the mounts and telescope in use. Shims would have been required.

Yep, a few. Last one was an Arsenal 107 that was out of spec. I've had a few though. The Bushmaster was the biggest let down, bought it for around $2200, the barrel kept loosening up and it started jamming a lot.

An Armsco .22LR jams every other shot got to clean it every 5 rounds just to group 2” at 20 yds. A real P.O.S but what can one expect for $50.00 rifle brand new from a big box store.

T/C 45/70 Encore rifle barrel, 24" & the combo kicks like no tomorrow, I could handle that except it has to
be loaded to max reloads before it gets anything like a group plus must use open sights, a scope
will remove your forehead. I would -just about- give it away.

Yes savage xs308 poly stock. Hated that rifle possibly due to the polymer

A fair bunch of them:
10/22 - just could never get the feel. Always felt slightly cumbersome ...
JC Penny Foremost 22 bolt, just got old.
Remington Model 30 in 257 Roberts with steel butt plate. That thing would smack my cheekbone something fierce.
Winchester 30-30 - same reason. The sloping stock would whack my cheekbone hard enough to make me flinch ...
Sears 22 lever action - too many misfeeds.
An over/under 12 ga that never really came to shoulder comfortably.

.378 Weatherby on a Shultz and Larsen Action. It weighed about 9 pounds scoped but with factory 300 grain ammo ( all I had ) it was nasty sharp and heavy recoil that punched you in face and felt like a baseball bat to the shoulder. Heavier than a .458 Win Mag in same weight and think double a ..375 H&H .just plain nasty.

The milsurp 6.5X52mm Carcano carbine my father purchased for me to use for deer hunting worked fine for me with its simple iron sights, when using milsurp ammo (which was all we had found available).

I have since read some (all? never quite sure with the Internet of course) of those rifles & carbines require .268 bullets instead of .264. Since I was never a reloader I never explored that angle.

I sold that rifle 10 or so years later as ammo had become too much trouble to try to find by then. But I didn't hate the rifle itself. Low enough recoil its metal buttplate against my spindly / wiry shoulder it was as easy for me to shoot as dad's .22RF, and nothing like the milsurp .303 SMLE my dad used for hunting.

The only rifle I didn't like was a Marlin semiautomatic .22RF my dad bought for me at Woolco before the Carcano. Three or four 50 round boxes of ammo and the firing pin spring was too weak to function. My dad exchanged the first one and we had the same problem with the second one. So dad returned the second one for a full refund at that point. Dad's Savage bolt action .22RF was always reliable and I have no reason to doubt it still is. I have it and his .303 still for sentimental reasons. I've never fired the .303 again after trying it as a 13 year old.

No I haven't not yet,I just starting buying mine a couple years ago.

jeepnik said:

No brainer. M-16. POS did it's best to get me killed.

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Amen to that. Mine too. Took me 45 years to warm back up to em