Rare rifles

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Regarding lever type quick release history, the late Leonard Brownell was responsible for the original design. Kimber resurrected the idea and began offering them until their financial problems put them out. I had heard that there was some connection between Dave Talley and Kimber up to that point (not sure on the truth of that). After Kimber quit making them Warne began offering similar function but not the elegance of the originals. I think this is where Dave Talley came in and began to compete with Warne for the same market, Talleys being of course much nicer.
 
I’ve had it for a few years and have never shot it. But it sure is pretty.

I would be glad to send you a couple of bullets just so you could... Good thing the French were so picky, they left all those Berthiers over here in mint condition.. It is a beauty..
 
I would be glad to send you a couple of bullets just so you could... Good thing the French were so picky, they left all those Berthiers over here in mint condition.. It is a beauty..


I think there were only like 150,000 of them made and a lot were sporterized. I was luck to find this one in a pawn shop for $400.
I have ammo for it, just haven’t shot it.
 
Some really nice pieces in this thread. Nothing really rare in my safe. The least run-of-the-mill is probably the Ruger No.1 RSI in 7x57 Mauser.
 
I think there were only like 150,000 of them made and a lot were sporterized. I was luck to find this one in a pawn shop for $400.
I have ammo for it, just haven’t shot it.

Heck I can hear that poor critter from over here saying......

"Please shoot me Gunny.. Please... I missed the great war. Rejected by the French.. Been stuffed in a closed for years... please shoot me... I'm lonely"

Also may I point out that it is an American... :)
 
The defining hallmark of a "rare" firearm is a product that was manufactured to sell but actually sold so few that remaining examples became recognized for their rarity. (Limited edition and special order examples fall in another category of rarity.) And it was such circumstances that befell the 1964 introduction of the .225 Winchester. Already handicapped by the universal disapproval of Winchester's "new" Model-70 rifle, the .225 Win. was introduced as a replacement for their spectacular performing .220 Swift. Whatever possessed the folks at Winchester to think a lesser caliber could and would replace a better one remains a mystery. And added to the .225's burden was Remington's concurrent introduction of their .22/250, a former wildcat that already had a generation of favorable recognition. Thus the .225 Win got little notice and every few customers. So few that production of .225 Rifles has halted and even production of ..225 Ammo. Which is why original .225 Model-70's can be counted as rare, and becoming even moreso, especially the heavy barreled Varmint version like this one.. DSC_0176.JPG DSC_0140.JPG DSC_0136.JPG
 
Too, it's hard for me to get past the (what appears to be, at least) impressed "checkering".
Mr. Swampwolf got it right about the impressed "checkering." That M-70 has the 1964 "Deluxe" impressed pattern with positive shaped diamonds to more or less represent hand cut checkering, whereas the standard grade rifles had even uglier negative pattern. But interesting that the wood used back then was still good grade real walnut. Years later cheap tupperware stocks came into vogue and gained acceptance.
 
These aren't real common. A Ross M-10 Sporter in .280 Ross. Sorry about the sideways and upside down pics. Puter is drunk again
 

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These aren't real common. A Ross M-10 Sporter in .280 Ross. Sorry about the sideways and upside down pics. Puter is drunk again

That is beautiful.. Do you have a year this was made..???. There was some ugly wild comments about a k-31 being a better Straight pull but that Ross is the best..

One question have you ever shot one of the military Ross rifles?? and if so does the straight pull work as equally smooth on each ???
 
That is beautiful.. Do you have a year this was made..???. There was some ugly wild comments about a k-31 being a better Straight pull but that Ross is the best..

One question have you ever shot one of the military Ross rifles?? and if so does the straight pull work as equally smooth on each ???
Not sure when the M-10 was made. The serial # is 8181. I also have a Mk III military Ross, which is the most accurate milsurp that I have ever fired. With factory ammo it shoots under M.O.A. Examined closely, it is easy to see where the accuracy comes from. The barrel is 31" long and with a rather heavy contour, and the sighting radius is a full 36 inches.

Now, the M-10 and the Mk III share the same basic action , but with different magazines. The M-10 is a conventional staggered row magazine, whereas the Mk III employs a single column. The former is the smoothest straight-pull action in existence, the latter, not so smooth. Like the Swiss rifles, it needs to be manipulated with authority. Not abusively....just with a firm hand.

The M-10, on the other hand, is so smooth and effortless it should be considered the "Krag" of straight pull actions. With a round in the magazine, and the bolt to the rear, if I point the muzzle at the ground, the bolt will, of its own weight, smoothly chamber the round.

Is the K-31 better than the Ross?? I think that obviously it is, even though it never saw combat. The Ross Mk III DID see combat and it failed miserably so I would give it second place. I have a K-31 and a 1911 and both are a joy to shoot......but the Ross is more accurate.
 

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Not sure when the M-10 was made. The serial # is 8181. I also have a Mk III military Ross, which is the most accurate milsurp that I have ever fired. With factory ammo it shoots under M.O.A. Examined closely, it is east to see where the accuracy comes from. The barrel is 31" long and with a rather heavy contour, and the sighting radius is a full 36 inches.

Now, the M-10 and the Mk III share the same basic action , but with different magazines. The M-10 is a conventional staggered row magazine, whereas the Mk III employs a single column. The former is the smoothest straight-pull action in existence, the latter, not so smooth. Like the Swiss rifles, it needs to be manipulated with authority. Not abusively....just with a firm hand.

The M-10, one the other hand, is so smooth and effortless it should be considered the "Krag" of straight pull actions. With a round in the magazine, and the bolt to the rear, if I point the muzzle at the ground, the bolt will, of its own weight, smoothly chamber the round.

Is the K-31 better than the Ross?? I think that obviously it is, even though it never saw combat. The Ross Mk III DID see combat and it failed miserably so I would give it second place. I have a K-31 and a 1911 and both are a joy to shoot......but the Ross is more accurate.


Many thanks .. I have not shot one of the civilian ross rifles.. But would expect them to be nicer. Is the magazine on your mk III in good condition.. Lots of those have seen abuse??

Fantastic report... Was on pins & needles as I read.
 
Here’s another rare on in my Mosin collection. It’s a 1953 Romanian M44. On the Mosin rarity scal from 1 to 10, it rates an 8. Romania started building M44s in 1953 and it was also the lowest production year.

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The SN # has been scrubbed from the bolt, but all the other numbers match.
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The stock has a few old repairs

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And the front band spring is broken. The rifle it the same as when I got it a few years back. All I have done to it is add the sling.
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