Beretta 92 Brigadier hits terribly low; Dawson doesn't make a front sight short enough

JohnKSa said:

I've heard that but I have never found that to be true, except at very close range where all guns tend to shoot low due to the bore being below the sights. The one notable exception was my 92G EII Brigadier. That model had a known sight problem and mine shot about 10 or 11 inches low at 15 yards--not something you can fix by covering the target with the dot.

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5-SHOTS said:

Beretta 92 series are sighted in to cover with the front sight what you want to hit. So if you want to hit a plate you have to cover it with the sights as the plate is behind the white dot of the front sight. Beretta 70 series: same thing.
You can try to find a higher rear sight or better yet an adjustable one, Novak style for example.

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JohnKSa said:

Dunno what to tell you. The half dozen or so Berettas I've owned (maybe 4 or 5 92 series, a PX4, and an 86) and any others I've shot over the years all shot to roughly a 6 O'clock hold at 25 yards and only put the bullet behind the front sight at very close ranges. That's with the exception of the aforementioned 92G EII that had a known issue with the sights and shot almost a foot low at about 15 yards.

And, of course, virtually any pistol will shoot behind the front sight at close ranges because the bore is below the sights so the bullet has to start out below the sights.

Beretta used to state on their website that their pistols were sighted for a 6 O'clock hold, but at some point in the last few years, they've changed their website. Now they state that the front sight should cover the point of impact, but the picture they provide actually shows a combat hold where the bullet impacts directly above the front sight (as if resting on top of it), not behind it. That would be consistent with what you would expect at 5-7 yards from pistol that's sighted for roughly 6 O'clock @ 25 yards.

That may be a big part of the issue here. A pistol won't shoot to the same point of aim at all distances. So if 3 people pick up the same gun (say one that's set up to shoot 6 O'clock @ 25yds) and shoot it at different distances, they'll all see a different point of impact.

The guy shooting at 25 yards will say the pistol is sighted for a 6 O'clock hold where the bullet hits a few inches above the front sight, the person shooting at 5-7 yards with the same gun and ammo will say it's sighted for a combat hold where the bullet impacts directly above the front sight as if resting on top of it, and the person shooting at closer ranges will say it's sighted to put the bullet behind the front sight.

Anyway, what I do know is that the changes to Beretta's website did not, surprisingly enough, change how the Berettas I own shoot.

For what it's worth, the OP is having a different issue because his gun is shooting lower as the range increases. That's what you see when the sights aren't set up right and are set to shoot too low. The bullet starts out below the bore and then just keeps getting lower the farther downrange it goes. A normal sight setup has the bullet starting out below the bore and then coming up because the sights are set up to aim the bore slightly upwards. So (at least until the trajectory arc peaks--which usually happens beyond 25 yards) the bullet keeps rising as it gets farther downrange.

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