Pitfalls of a law requiring disclosing number of warranty returns for firearms?

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In another thread, the subject of a certain firearm's reliability record came up, as it often does, and numerous people had wildly different experiences and views. All were ultimately subjective as there is no data available, that I'm aware of, to objectively rate how reliable certain firearms are.

With vehicles, there are multiple sources of data from which to extrapolate how reliable a vehicle is.

I don't know if there is a federal law that requires manufacturers to disclose that data, or if they release it voluntarily, or if it is simply gleaned from other sources.

When I went shopping for a new SUV last year, I could look up various sources and look at the number of recalls, incidents of repairs, owner surveys, and multiple ratings and reviews in choosing the most reliable vehicle at a price I could afford.

I can do the same thing for a dishwasher. But I can't for a carry gun.

If a bill was introduced that would require firearms manufacturers to disclose the number of recalls issued, number of warranty returns, and number of repairs done on the various models they sell, would that be a bad thing?

I despise firearms regulation in the name of "safety", but it seems that requiring gun makers to actually disclose just how reliable their products are would be a huge positive for gun owners.

Am I wrong to think that having actual data and concrete numbers as to repair statistics would be a good thing?
 
In another thread, the subject of a certain firearm's reliability record came up, as it often does, and numerous people had wildly different experiences and views. All were ultimately subjective as there is no data available, that I'm aware of, to objectively rate how reliable certain firearms are.

Am I wrong to think that having actual data and concrete numbers as to repair statistics would be a good thing?

Perhaps you're not wrong in principle, but I wouldn't necessarily trust our current ilk of legislators to be turned loose on this one.

Give it a little time, and you'll be able to figure out which ones you want to trust. Take by '08 Smith & Wesson in their hand ejectors had come out with a pretty nice action. Colt in the same year, added a hammer block, and changed a few flat springs to coil. Both have stood the test of time. In 1911 Colt dropped the egregious double mainspring in their new semi-auto, and it's done well.

If these three are too flamboyant and new for you, look to the old single action that's been around since the early seventies and before that in its basic design since '36.

Or perhaps I misconstrued your question? Maybe you want to know if the pretty gun reviewed in last month's glossy gun magazine actually works?

I haven't a clue. If you're going to insist on carrying something that new, carry a blade too, not that that's a big deal. You do that anyway, right?
 
Am I wrong to think that having actual data and concrete numbers as to repair statistics would be a good thing?
You can have concrete numbers and the government doesn't need to and shouldn't have anything to do with it. Plenty of independent reviews of firearms to go by. Pay attention to people who have the background to know what they're talking about, ignore the rest (or argue with them on forums, just for the hell of it) and you'll be very unlikely to go wrong.
 
I feel we get better statistics from our own gun owning communities and online reviews (those we know are unbiased). I've passed up more than a few purchase considerations or had concerns validated that others have vocalized based on reviewing this type of feedback. My fear is that any time legislative efforts are aimed at the gun manufacturing industry in this day and age, it has a greater potential to do harm than good.
 
With cars, manufacturers are required to maintain a database of the buyers of their cars, so that they can be notified in case of a safety recall. Nobody really objects to this.

With guns, there would be an uproar if something like this was attempted, with people saying that a "registry" was being created. How many of you send in a warranty card when buying a new gun? I know I don't.

The difference is that there are no serious proposals to outlaw cars, whereas the threats to outlaw guns are constant.
 
You can already find information on manufacturer's safety recalls.

My feeling is that disclosing numbers of just warranty repair claims would be proprietary confidential business information, and as such would be challenged in court by manufacturers.
 
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