perldog007
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Ross Seyfried wrote "the .45 Colt knocks living things down as surely as if it has several hundred fps more 'swoosh'..." John Taffin bemoaned Ruger temporarily dropping the .45 LC from the Blackhawk line due to battered frames from handloaders being returned.. .
At night I often carried the 29 with .44 Russian shells, .44 specials depending on location, 180 grain magnum Normas on some sites. It was perfect.
Have an old friend from MPDC who taught me to security guard in the 80's. in the late 90's he was retired and bought a J frame airweight. Shot it with his ammo choice once. It was made to be carried and not to practice with. LIke an alloy framed M9, limited lifespan.
Now I have two steel .44s, a .36, and a .31.
I want a brassy. The cheapo purist aggraviting 185 'CONFEDERATE SHERIFF' "Andersonville Special" looks like a cheap .38 snub with a larger hole loaded to Colt's orginal instructions with strong powder ball by these numbers http://poconoshooting.com/blackpowderballistics.html
The Brass 1858 sheriff model, likewise with 35 grains of Goex and a 220grain VKV keith style slug is going to approximate my old CA bulldhog .44 special. Not too far behind my Taurus .44 five shot K frame 4".. Competent 600fps likely closer to 700 or better.
Buy a brass Pietta 12" 1851 .44 from Dixie. A 3" .44 1851/60 bbl from Taylor & co. Now I can have a steel framed 1860 with 1851 12" bbl, a 3" snubby brassie which is at least as good as a .38 snubbie. Worked in 'Indian Country' with one of those and an antique Colt New Pocket .32 more than once.
Any .36 full size with a VKV 140gr keith style pill and 23 grains of goex is a .38 special all day long but cheaper and easier to carry more shots, although slower to reload. Cartridges speed that up. Pre loaded cylinders, yada yada.
Also with the Brass 1851 shorty I have a steel frame, so if I wanted to shoot the short barrel extensively with more than 23 grains of fffg goex then we have means. We can swap the 1860 grip and have a genuine unicorn 1851 steel frame. Then a square guard, smooth clyinder and my 1851 with 1860 grips is what one member calls a 2nd model Navy belt dragoon.
Where can I buy an 1851 .44 brass grip frame, mainspring, grip, screw set, trigger, guard, bolt spring, hammer, cylinder and 5" bbl for two hundred bucks new?
With the 1858 we could even have it loaded with bunny poppers and carry a can of kaido's max loaded ready to swap out. In theory you could do the same with the open top models.
I love the full size steel belt guns for their looks and versatility. I never knew you could do this much with 'toy guns'.
Why do 'we' seem to fear light loads and guns that are meant to be carried more than shot? Both have had their place for eons but every thread a newbie mentions a brassy we tell them no. I'm still pretty new, I will buy a magnum cartridge gun if I want to own one again. Quickly.
Why shouldn't I have a brassy if I want a beater? back up? plinker?
I love my steel Pietta 1860. I tried to kill it for two years.
It will get a fine sanding, steel wool and browning job. My favorite handgun of all time. Loves 35 grains of weak or strong powder and .454 ball so far.
Never hot loaded it, no stress marks, shook the arbor loose nce over compressing pyrodex. Goex man now.
Love my steel framed 1858. 35 or 40 grains 3f goex and a .454 ball? That is what my service revolvers should have been and boringly reliable if properly cared for. Good Keith style slug? Hog killer without trying to blow it up.
Why can't we tell new folks that a brass frame is like a lightweight J-frame? Not meant for a lot of shooting with anything but light loads?
What is wrong with a new shooter learning the quirks of BP and NMA or Colt Replicas burning less powder? We carry kit guns, snubbies, .38s, Milspec .45s and ammo, 9mm with ball ammo, I mean I've seen it all, Even a Phoenix arms .25 two miles from the nearest road or house.
Would it be bad to have a 'spare' if they like the hobby and decide to spend more on the next one? Two hundred bucks seems to still be a 'price point' for luxury goods. Most are less than three hundred.
I love this unicorn, It has brought many to our sport. Might go with a G&G. .36.
Love old surplus rifles because they aren't as expensive as other tools that do the same job in heavy country with few long shots. Not the end of the world if it gets taken from you by overzealous authorities, stolen or destroyed. Why can't your trail gun be the same way? #askingforme Think of it as a .22 trail gun replacement with short term full power capability?
Put another way, if you need to bust a full load from your 'back up' or gun you 'didn't need' do we really care if we stretch the frame we can replace? Or upgrade to steel if that happens?
I want one, I'll have one and enjoy it. Not sure which one, I'm watching sales. Might even go with the 1851 .44 Sheriff Unicorn. I stay away from most re-enactors so I might not even get water boarded too bad.
Anybody else like brassies?
At night I often carried the 29 with .44 Russian shells, .44 specials depending on location, 180 grain magnum Normas on some sites. It was perfect.
Have an old friend from MPDC who taught me to security guard in the 80's. in the late 90's he was retired and bought a J frame airweight. Shot it with his ammo choice once. It was made to be carried and not to practice with. LIke an alloy framed M9, limited lifespan.
Now I have two steel .44s, a .36, and a .31.
I want a brassy. The cheapo purist aggraviting 185 'CONFEDERATE SHERIFF' "Andersonville Special" looks like a cheap .38 snub with a larger hole loaded to Colt's orginal instructions with strong powder ball by these numbers http://poconoshooting.com/blackpowderballistics.html
The Brass 1858 sheriff model, likewise with 35 grains of Goex and a 220grain VKV keith style slug is going to approximate my old CA bulldhog .44 special. Not too far behind my Taurus .44 five shot K frame 4".. Competent 600fps likely closer to 700 or better.
Buy a brass Pietta 12" 1851 .44 from Dixie. A 3" .44 1851/60 bbl from Taylor & co. Now I can have a steel framed 1860 with 1851 12" bbl, a 3" snubby brassie which is at least as good as a .38 snubbie. Worked in 'Indian Country' with one of those and an antique Colt New Pocket .32 more than once.
Any .36 full size with a VKV 140gr keith style pill and 23 grains of goex is a .38 special all day long but cheaper and easier to carry more shots, although slower to reload. Cartridges speed that up. Pre loaded cylinders, yada yada.
Also with the Brass 1851 shorty I have a steel frame, so if I wanted to shoot the short barrel extensively with more than 23 grains of fffg goex then we have means. We can swap the 1860 grip and have a genuine unicorn 1851 steel frame. Then a square guard, smooth clyinder and my 1851 with 1860 grips is what one member calls a 2nd model Navy belt dragoon.
Where can I buy an 1851 .44 brass grip frame, mainspring, grip, screw set, trigger, guard, bolt spring, hammer, cylinder and 5" bbl for two hundred bucks new?
With the 1858 we could even have it loaded with bunny poppers and carry a can of kaido's max loaded ready to swap out. In theory you could do the same with the open top models.
I love the full size steel belt guns for their looks and versatility. I never knew you could do this much with 'toy guns'.
Why do 'we' seem to fear light loads and guns that are meant to be carried more than shot? Both have had their place for eons but every thread a newbie mentions a brassy we tell them no. I'm still pretty new, I will buy a magnum cartridge gun if I want to own one again. Quickly.
Why shouldn't I have a brassy if I want a beater? back up? plinker?
I love my steel Pietta 1860. I tried to kill it for two years.
It will get a fine sanding, steel wool and browning job. My favorite handgun of all time. Loves 35 grains of weak or strong powder and .454 ball so far.
Never hot loaded it, no stress marks, shook the arbor loose nce over compressing pyrodex. Goex man now.
Love my steel framed 1858. 35 or 40 grains 3f goex and a .454 ball? That is what my service revolvers should have been and boringly reliable if properly cared for. Good Keith style slug? Hog killer without trying to blow it up.
Why can't we tell new folks that a brass frame is like a lightweight J-frame? Not meant for a lot of shooting with anything but light loads?
What is wrong with a new shooter learning the quirks of BP and NMA or Colt Replicas burning less powder? We carry kit guns, snubbies, .38s, Milspec .45s and ammo, 9mm with ball ammo, I mean I've seen it all, Even a Phoenix arms .25 two miles from the nearest road or house.
Would it be bad to have a 'spare' if they like the hobby and decide to spend more on the next one? Two hundred bucks seems to still be a 'price point' for luxury goods. Most are less than three hundred.
I love this unicorn, It has brought many to our sport. Might go with a G&G. .36.
Love old surplus rifles because they aren't as expensive as other tools that do the same job in heavy country with few long shots. Not the end of the world if it gets taken from you by overzealous authorities, stolen or destroyed. Why can't your trail gun be the same way? #askingforme Think of it as a .22 trail gun replacement with short term full power capability?
Put another way, if you need to bust a full load from your 'back up' or gun you 'didn't need' do we really care if we stretch the frame we can replace? Or upgrade to steel if that happens?
I want one, I'll have one and enjoy it. Not sure which one, I'm watching sales. Might even go with the 1851 .44 Sheriff Unicorn. I stay away from most re-enactors so I might not even get water boarded too bad.
Anybody else like brassies?
