Python or L-frame?

wagonburner said:

My response was to the OPs questions. You have a totally different set.

Your shooting is your business so you decide if a Python is worth your while or not.

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I asked the question simply because the op asked:
"What I'm looking for is a good, accurate gun"

You responded with 1 word:
"Python"

Hence my question:
"Just how much more accurate do you think a python is over a 586/686 without having/testing a new python?"

No big deal, just wonder why you think a python would be more accurate than a 586/686.

Myself, I know nothing about the new pythons and my newest 686 is 2 years old so I can only use the 2 year old 686 as a hands on real world baseline to answer questions about accuracy.

forrest r said:

I asked the question simply because the op asked:
"What I'm looking for is a good, accurate gun"

You responded with 1 word:
"Python"

Hence my question:
"Just how much more accurate do you think a python is over a 586/686 without having/testing a new python?"

No big deal, just wonder why you think a python would be more accurate than a 586/686.

Myself, I know nothing about the new pythons and my newest 686 is 2 years old so I can only use the 2 year old 686 as a hands on real world baseline to answer questions about accuracy.

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Sorry if my response sounded terse, that was not my intent.

I didn’t say the new Python would be more accurate than a new 686. I suggested he buy the Python and my reasoning was that Colt is putting a lot of effort into the (re)release of their revolver line whereas S&W are producing revolvers of steadily declining quality.

That’s simply my opinion as a gun owner, no more. Im not a gunsmith or journalist, and I don’t have any special insight into what Colt is doing. I think perhaps you are reading more into my comment than what was there. I have no idea if your shooting will improve when using a new Python.

It will however, definitely improve if you use a Manurhin MR73, but that a whole different can of worms and off topic.

wagonburner said:

It will however, definitely improve if you use a Manurhin MR73, but that a whole different can of worms and off topic.

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Quoting myself (How audacious! ) on another forum, but if you know shotguns, and know revolvers this will make sense:

The Python is the Browning 725, the Korth is the K80. The Ruger GP100 is the Ljutic, the S&W 586 is the Beretta 682. Charter Arms is the Tri-Star, The Manurhin 73 is the Perazzi. The Chiappa Rhino is the Benelli Ugb 25, the Iver Johnson break-top .32 is the H&R Topper. The Webley-Fosbery is the Butler, The S&W Model 10 is the Remington 1100.

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wagonburner said:

Sorry if my response sounded terse, that was not my intent.

I didn’t say the new Python would be more accurate than a new 686. I suggested he buy the Python and my reasoning was that Colt is putting a lot of effort into the (re)release of their revolver line whereas S&W are producing revolvers of steadily declining quality.

That’s simply my opinion as a gun owner, no more. Im not a gunsmith or journalist, and I don’t have any special insight into what Colt is doing. I think perhaps you are reading more into my comment than what was there. I have no idea if your shooting will improve when using a new Python.

It will however, definitely improve if you use a Manurhin MR73, but that a whole different can of worms and off topic.

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You threw that remark into the discussion.

Money can buy you many nice things in life. Money can buy you nice equipment but not marksmanship. By the way, I own several MR73, S&Ws, Pythons, Korths and competed for decades. The best gun never makes the best shooter in offhand shooting where skill, fitting grips and so on are more important than mechanical accuracy.

Choices are best done on a personal level, simply because we are not all the same.

PzGren said:

You threw that remark into the discussion.

Money can buy you many nice things in life. Money can buy you nice equipment but not marksmanship. By the way, I own several MR73, S&Ws, Pythons, Korths and competed for decades. The best gun never makes the best shooter in offhand shooting where skill, fitting grips and so on are more important than mechanical accuracy.

Choices are best done on a personal level, simply because we are not all the same.

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Well bless your heart ...

HPCadm17 said:

I'd have to see a new Python in person and try it out before deciding on a preference, but if it's not twice as good as an L-Frame, I won't pay double the price for it. Right now I could just about buy 2 686's for the price of one new Python, plus have the option of a 7th round.

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I don't currently have a Python but do own several Colt revolvers and many more Smiths. But I would make the argument that just because a Python costs twice as much as an L frame Smith doesn't necessarily mean it isn't worth twice the price. It all depends on how much more a person is willing to pay for better workmanship, quality of material and finish. A better (more apropos) comparison between the two revolvers might be between the Colt Python vs the S&W "Registered Magnum"-in which case, I'd probably opt for the Smith & Wesson.

I'd go with a 586-8 over the Python. I don't think the pre-lock guns have anything over the current ones. And you get a longer cylinder with the L frame which comes in handy if you reload. Save the rest for some maple grips and a mold or two and you'll still have money left over.

No difference in quality revolvers?

Why if I was a younger.man (and still had those eyes) I would challenge you to a duel!

Lemons at 100 yards ... 1st man to a dozen wins. I take my DW 15-2 and you bring your S&W, Colt or Ruger.