mcb
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300 PRC has far more interests to me than 6.5 PRC but I don't have much use for it. I would like a big heavy chassis gun in 300 PRC with some obnoxious 34-35mm dia tube optic on it. But what am I going to use it for?
How long until the 6.5 PRC takes off ?
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it's pretty much the opposite. NRA across the course gets alibis. if you have a malfunction, you get to a do over.
the shooting game now is not just run n gun, but it's also higher round count and shot in places you're more likely to get mud, water, sand etc in your action and mag, unlike the manicured lawns of every high power range i've ever been to. and there are no alibis. fix it on the clock.
i dunno. hunting may be dying, but it sure seems the type of hunting is moving to long range game. i'm not a fan of it, and hopefully it's just a fad that's about played out. but past few years sure seems like every old deer hunter wants to brag about how far away they've shot something.
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I agree the popularity of longer range hunting has grown a lot in some parts of the country. Out here, we’ve always shot long, so even ~30 years ago, most folks had their story about some 400-600 yard shot they’d made. However, some of the folks I hunt with back East have really seemed to change their tune in recent years, putting down 35 rem’s and Dirty Thirties and picking up 6.5 creeds and 7RM’s. I’ve THOROUGHLY enjoyed rubbing in that fact for some of them - many I’ve known for years, and they’ve all talked trash with the same ol’ “a real hunter can get closer,” cliché for years, so now I turn it back on them for their sudden change of heart.
I’d be intrigued to see stats - impossibly sourced as they might be - to compare the rate of decay versus the shift towards long range hunting. I might be wrong, but I’d assume almost all new hunters are adopting the long range mentality, but I’d also assume the way things are going overall, more folks are putting down any rifle than the number of folks picking up a long range hunting rig.
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I have never shot a deer over 100 yards. I still practice at much further distances. I heard a hunting instructor say once that whatever range you anticipate shooting big game at you should be training/practicing at twice that range.
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Impressive on paper,and almost completely inconsequential on game animals in field conditions.
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That's the 26 Nosler or the Weatherby.
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I may be interested in a .25 PRC.... with a fast twist ....say 1/8 ....if the bullet makers ever decide to make some suitable bullets ....
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Rural areas across the midwest are losing population, as farms and ranches grow larger, and as modern equipment allows one man to do the work of two or three a few decades ago. Old farmsteads are more and more becoming pivot tracks.
The result is less rural families, and youth and a switch to more of an urban culture.
States are still seeing large harvests of deer and such so hunting is still popular. But hunting as a way of life is way down.
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Yeah ....I knew of the BlackJack bullets ....but I was talking Sierra, Nosler, Hornady .....the main line makers that are now making heavy 6 mm , 6.5 mm.... well many except .25 caliber ....
The BlackJack .257 ....131 grain.....
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That's what I love about this place, buncha first rate enablers!
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mcb said:
Living and hunting in MT I haven't shot a deer or elk under 200 yards. The closest was 203 yards and the furthest was 465 yards. Where I hunt it's hard if not impossible to get close. In my experience, 300 yard shots are the norm out here. That's just a fact of hunting in and around the Great Falls area, not a boast or anything to be proud of, just a statement of fact.
I will add that I've had a small herd of elk on my 20 acre property each year for the last four years. I could have shot a couple of nice bulls less than 70 yards from my back door but it wasn't sporting so I passed on them. I had 25 cow elk less than 100 yards from my back door on two occasions this month and late last month. Looking at elk never gets old. They're such cool animals.
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According to Google trends, the 6.5 PRC is about 15% as popular as the 6.5 Creedmoor (which is pretty good IMO).
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=6.5 prc,6.5 creedmoor
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=6.5 prc,6.5 creedmoor
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I have. I shot one enough to decide I’m going to buy another Seekins Havak as a hunting rifle in 6.5 PRC, and probably rebarrel one of my wife’s Savages from 300 WSM to 6.5 PRC too.
But I can say it’s very clear there’s not a 6:1 ratio between 6.5 Creed to 6.5 PRC’s on the streets out there...
But I can say it’s very clear there’s not a 6:1 ratio between 6.5 Creed to 6.5 PRC’s on the streets out there...
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That was my thought too. I have a 6.5 PRC , a 6.5 CM and a 6.5x47 Lapua but in general I'd bet the ratio of 6.5 CM to 6.5PRC is 1,000:1 or higher. My interest in the 6.5 PRC was mainly as a hunting cartridge and maybe a Proof Sendero barrel on a Kimber 8400 WSM receiver would be the ticket.
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No one does it - it's too popular?
Just looking at hunting pressure - the difficulty of pulling trophy unit elk tags, moose, cow bison, heck mule deer - it's clear that hunting is doing just fine. The only thing that's gotten easier to pull is black bear, which should just go OTC because no one wants them.
The shots in most places I hunt are long and a 6.5 magnum with high SD/BC bullets is a reasonable solution. I've got a .264WM shooting 160s and it works. Light and handy too. It's not clear if 6.5PRC is an improvement though. Fast twist is nice, but not necessary for the Weldcore 160s.
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If you’ve missed the many publications of statistics for the last several years pointing out the massive decline in hunter recruitment, you must have been living under a rock.
I agree with that. Every PRC owner I know of also has, or had in my case, a creedmoor, and far more folks shoot the CM than the PRC here.
If I didn't already have a pair of 7s and that 6.5-284, I really like, I'd have been more invested in my 6.5prc. I think it's a great blend of performance for something like a Savage 10 series since it's got a slightly longer box.
I know of about 1/2 dozen here, and have shot mine and one other.
I'd honestly probably pass on the 6.5PRC if I already had a .264 I liked......and right now that's the cartridge that I'll probably choose if I go back to a magnum 6.5
I will own a 6.5cm again....but bigger and we're into territor I've got pretty well covered.
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I have no idea, but the Google trends data is the only data that I have access to. It'd be better to know something like ammo sales on Midway, but given how many people hand load the 6.5 PRC that may not be a good proxy either. We could take a poll here, but being an enthusiast site that might be skewed as well. I don't own either; I think the 6mm Creedmoor is the better Creedmoor and I'm not a hand loader so the 6.5 PRC won't be a consideration until there's a lot more ammo available.
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