Which .380 Flat Nose FMJ Looks Like It Would Do More Tissue Damage?

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A flat nose FMJ bullet crushes a greater diameter of soft tissues as it penetrates than a round nose FMJ bullet. The round nose bullet allows soft tissues to stretch and flow around its smooth contours with little more than abrasion damage whereas the flat nose crushes tissues directly in the bullets path. The flat nose also propels soft tissues radially outward, creating a temporary cavity that envelops the bullet which decreases drag and allows the bullet to penetrate deeper than a round nose bullet FMJ of the same diameter, weight and velocity.

These effects can be seen on a paper target - a round nose bullet creates several stellate (star-like) tears in the paper. The torn paper can be moved back into original position and very little is missing. However with a flat nose bullet there's a hole that's been punched out with stellate tears around the periphery. The hole is paper that has been permanently disintegrated and removed.

The sharper the shoulder between the meplat and ogive the more effective the bullet's crushing and cutting mechanisms. The flat meplat crushes. The sharp shoulder cuts.
 
A flat nose FMJ bullet crushes a greater diameter of soft tissues as it penetrates than a round nose FMJ bullet. The round nose bullet allows soft tissues to stretch and flow around its smooth contours with little more than abrasion damage whereas the flat nose crushes tissues directly in the bullets path. The flat nose also propels soft tissues radially outward, creating a temporary cavity that envelops the bullet which decreases drag and allows the bullet to penetrate deeper than a round nose bullet FMJ of the same diameter, weight and velocity.

These effects can be seen on a paper target - a round nose bullet creates several stellate (star-like) tears in the paper. The torn paper can be moved back into original position and very little is missing. However with a flat nose bullet there's a hole that's been punched out with stellate tears around the periphery. The hole is paper that has been permanently disintegrated and removed.

The sharper the shoulder between the meplat and ogive the more effective the bullet's crushing and cutting mechanisms. The flat meplat crushes. The sharp shoulder cuts.
Thank you, great response. So looking at the two pictured bullets, which one looks to have the bigger meplat and sharper shoulder in your opinion?
 
They look so close to me that I believe you would need to measure them with calipers to be able to determine any difference.
 
Shawn,

I do not believe you are correct on the flat nose theory. The hunting load pioneered by Elmer KEITH and others had "WIDE" flat nose bullets, which are nearly the full width of the bullet and they are usually heavy for caliber.while the flat nose on the .380ACP just makes it more likely that the round will misfeed. This has been my personal experience with WINCHESTER flat nose ammo. Their .32ACP white box would not feed 100 % reliably in any of the 7 different .32ACP pistols that I tried it in, including BERETTA 82's, COLT 1903 or a WALTHER PP or PPK. These guns are otherwise 100 % reliable feeders, even with hollow points.
The effect of these rounds on a paper target are not the same as when they are fired into a gel package. If you know of some gel testing that supports your theory, I am open to new evidence.

Jim
 
I don't know how you can tell which would do more damage just by looking at them. I would take them out and shoot them at different media and see what kind of bullet holes and penetration you are getting. You may as well also try plain old Winchester White Box flat point, although the velocity is rather low in my guns. As for me, I use Lehigh standard pressure Xtreme Penetrators, but that is off topic.
 
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