New Backup Gun. RM380 Executive

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BarryHalls said:
Over all I found them to be superb. HOWEVER, our shop had a selection of 5 or so that were among the first available. Nothing whatsoever retained the takedown pin when it was aligned with the hole in the slide.

I was able to take each and every one, turn them 90 degrees, and ease the slide back, and the takedown pin would fall out onto the counter on its own.

This may not seem like an issue to some, but I don't want the literal lynchpin holding the whole thing together jostling and drifting unimpeded. It seems like the very thing to work its way into a jammed up position if you had to fire it at odd angles to gravity in a struggle.

One hopes that Remington would have addressed this by now, but I would be sure they did before trusting one with my personal security.
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Grrrrrrrreeeeeeaaaase.

Seriously, glob some grease on the cam slot of the barrel and glob some grease on the pin before sliding that pin into the gun.

Therefore if anyone actually aligns the take-down holes and tilts the gun to the side, the pin stays put.

The reality is that the holes are not aligned when the gun is in battery, or when the slide is locked back, and when the gun is fired the time window for those holes to align and let the pin fall out is an impossibility.

Cycling the slide manually in a normal fashion doesn't allow the pin to fall out either, especially with a greased pin.

The watery oil that Remington puts on that pin from the factory is unacceptable in the first place. Grease is the answer and Remington should ship the guns greased in that location.
 
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chicharrones said:
Grrrrrrrreeeeeeaaaase.

Seriously, glob some grease on the cam slot of the barrel and glob some grease on the pin before sliding that pin into the gun.

Therefore if anyone actually aligns the take-down holes and tilts the gun to the side, the pin stays put.

The reality is that the holes are not aligned when the gun is in battery, or when the slide is locked back, and when the gun is fired the time window for those holes to align and let the pin fall out is an impossibility.

Cycling the slide manually in a normal fashion doesn't allow the pin to fall out either, especially with a greased pin.

The watery oil that Remington puts on that pin from the factory is unacceptable in the first place. Grease is the answer and Remington should ship the guns greased in that location.
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Good point on their oil. It's like mineral oil. We had to wipe down all of the Remington long guns with CLP as soon as they were handled or they would begin to rust.
 
BarryHalls said:
Good point on their oil. It's like mineral oil. We had to wipe down all of the Remington long guns with CLP as soon as they were handled or they would begin to rust.
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Yep. My recently acquired Remington made stainless Marlin 1894 had rust spots starting on its barrel. That thin oil Remington uses evaporates like water and the anti-rust paper they throw in the box doesn't help for two minutes in high humidity areas.
 
BarryHalls said:
From the comments here, I should get my hands on one again and experiment a bit.
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If you don't mind long, true double action trigger pulls, it's a mighty fine pocket gun. A tad fat compared to the Ruger LCP class, but an easy to rack and soft shooting pocket gun. I like my plain black RM380 immensely.
 
Just done at the range.

Very soft shooting pocket 380. I actually really like the trigger a lot. Much more accurate than my experience with other pocket guns.

Now the bad.

With a variety of ammo multiple FTE from both mags.

Going to break it down when I get home and see if I can find some clues as to cause.
 
SRSTAdam21 said:
Just done at the range.

Very soft shooting pocket 380. I actually really like the trigger a lot. Much more accurate than my experience with other pocket guns.

Now the bad.

With a variety of ammo multiple FTE from both mags.

Going to break it down when I get home and see if I can find some clues as to cause.
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That not very characteristic of the RM380.. I literally watched ever YT review I could find, and scoured the internet reading every forum review and social media review I could find. Just about all the reviews were favorable. I hope you find out what the issue is, and let us know. It's a real simple design, so I'm hoping it's just a break in, oiling, or spring replacement issue.
 
BarryHalls said:
I was somewhat aware of the history of the design. I still don't like it. At very least, I would have to see a review of one fired at the correct angle for the pin to fall out, for 2-3 magazines full, without issue.

If such a review already exists, I will retract my statements in full and give the RM380 a sparkling endorsement. I do really like the fit, finish, feel and price. A surprising combination from late a model Remington.
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I haven't took my RM380 to the rage in a long while, but this thread and others has rekindled my interest. Next time I go I'll try to get video shoot it from an angle.
 
BarryHalls said:
Over all I found them to be superb. HOWEVER, our shop had a selection of 5 or so that were among the first available. Nothing whatsoever retained the takedown pin when it was aligned with the hole in the slide.

I was able to take each and every one, turn them 90 degrees, and ease the slide back, and the takedown pin would fall out onto the counter on its own.

This may not seem like an issue to some, but I don't want the literal lynchpin holding the whole thing together jostling and drifting unimpeded. It seems like the very thing to work its way into a jammed up position if you had to fire it at odd angles to gravity in a struggle.

One hopes that Remington would have addressed this by now, but I would be sure they did before trusting one with my personal security.
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A little gun grease on that pin and it will never fall out. I know that is what I have used.
 
Styx said:
That not very characteristic of the RM380.. I literally watched ever YT review I could find, and scoured the internet reading every forum review and social media review I could find. Just about all the reviews were favorable. I hope you find out what the issue is, and let us know. It's a real simple design, so I'm hoping it's just a break in, oiling, or spring replacement issue.
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I can never remember if FTE is Failure to Extract or Failure to Eject.... at any rate I'm sorry to hear about the issue.
 
That looks like a nice little pocket gun.

Too bad you’re having issues though. Hope you get it sorted out.
 
Thanks everyone. Spent casings we’re not being extracted fully from the barrel. The next round would get lodged underneath it and the slide obviously wouldn’t return to battery. Will be doing the break down in a few hours.
 
Update:

Despite an initial cleaning prior to use, the gun had extensive buildup around the extractor once it was field stripped. The initial ammo used was fairly dirty. The gun did function the first two mags before starting to jam. Did thorough clean and loaded up with some Remington Golden Sabres. Will try it out Thursday and report back.
 
Aguila or S&B are my favorite .380 ACP for FMJ. They are not weak and they are cleaner in my opinion than most of the USA brands.

Winchester WWB and Federal AE make a mess out of my .380s.
 
Grease is the word, as you have heard. But if you still want a little more insurance, magnetize that little pin because I #think# the hole it goes through is also ferrous metal..might be wrong
 
jar said:
Simply his advice, "What me worry?" The take down pin in the RM380 is not something to worry about.

You didn't read MAD I guess?
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40 Years Ago... It just went over my head I guess...
 
SRSTAdam21 said:
For those with the RM380, what defensive ammo have you found to be most reliable?
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I had an RM380. I never had an issue with any ammo I tried in my gun. I put nearly a thousand rounds through it and it never had a problem.
I literally tried every SD load I could find. My gun was most accurate with Remington Ultimate Defense and Hornady American Gunner.

Since it was a primary carry gun in the summer it got cleaned and lubed often. Keep them clean and lubricated and it will run great.
 
Update: Flawless operation today through another 100 rounds. Good shooter with the Hornady 90gr XTP. Absolutely spot on with Remington Golden Sabre 102gr BJHP. Gorgeous gun. Shocked at how accurate I can be at 10 yards (consistent head shots) with a pocket gun. This thing is a winner.
 
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