What do folks here do with their carry gun when they have to go into a post office?

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UPS Store for all my package and overnight letter needs, they actually track the packages and give delivery notifications online. They have PO boxes for rent too. My post office has drop off boxes which actually front onto a non-Gov't. parking lot.
 
Sorry- not seeing it... Wrong link?

May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another state. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of their own state or to a licensee in any state.

The U.S. Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.

Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A); 27 CFR 478.31]
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service

ATF allows mailing long guns. Post office doesn't?

Regards.
hps
 
as CC permit holders we are responsible for knowing federal law such as no weapons permitted in a federal building. Been a while since I got my training but I think that was covered.
It was covered in my training and the instructor specifically mentioned post offices.
 
old lady new shooter

I think all UPS Stores are Approved Postal Providers and you can probably drop off your mail there. Also, you can search here and probably find a retail store or convenience store close to you that is also a full service provider. Are you in Surprise AZ?

https://tools.usps.com/find-location.htm
A friend in another state offered to sell me some of his books, I told him to send me photos of his shelves, from which I picked out the books I wanted and agreed to pay $x for the books plus $25 for shipping, based on my estimate that media mail would definitely cost less than that. Instead he shipped them from UPS, who charged him $24.xx. I weighed the box when I received it and media mail would have been $12.xx.
 
If I was just going into the post office, why would I leave my gun in the car?
Now if I was going into the court house or somewhere with a metal detector, I'd put it in my lock box under my seat that is cabled to the floor. Sure, some one could still get it but not in a smash & grab.

I had a gun stolen 20 some years ago, I still worry that it might show up used at a crime, used to kill someone.
 
If you follow the rules it's good for.everyone.

Have your wife or friend drop you off neat the post office and pick you up near the post office. They can secure it for you while you visit the post office without it.

Law breakers cause an increase in restrictions for everyone.
Rest of ya'll should start following the law then."Shall NOT be infringed..." There is only one USCON for the whole USA and the post office is about as much a part of the USA as there is. Illegal, unconstitutional law is to be ignored.
 
Use search. Click the results. Each one has a link to source.


The source article wasnt much more than what I posted but that's all I could copy with all the pop ups and wants you to subscribe
Thanks - found it. You're right - not much information there - kind of sounds like he had both of his guns on the counter
I pasted the source article from The Bowling Green Press below:

Police: Man brought guns to Scottsville Post Office
  • Nov 6, 2018

An Allen County man was arrested after reportedly bringing firearms to the Scottsville post office.

Scottsville Police Department officers were called to the post office at 12:18 p.m. Monday regarding a person with a gun. Police were informed that the person was wearing a red shirt and jeans and carrying a long gun and a handgun in or around the post office.

The SPD and Allen County Sheriff's Office responded to the location and established a perimeter around the post office.

Police identified Terry L. Stewart, 55, of Scottsville, as the person with the firearms.


Stewart had the weapons on the counter and said he was there to mail the rifle, according to SPD.

Federal law prohibits carrying guns inside a post office and the Scottsville location had signs posted informing people of the law.

Stewart was arrested on charges of carrying a concealed deadly weapon.
 
I live about 150 yards from the post office in a town of 1200. The USPS does not offer mail delivery to my house, so I HAVE to have a PO box. Just today I took my dog for a walk downtown and then to the post office to get my mail.

Usually, I stop by the post office on my way to work to check mail about once a week.

If I go by the sign on the door, then even having my pocket knife is illegal.

Don't ask, don't tell seems to work OK.

If I have to stop by on the way to the woods and I'm open carrying, then I will remove the holster/firearm and leave it in the vehicle, which I can see the entire time I'm checking my mail. It's a small post office.
 
A friend in another state offered to sell me some of his books, I told him to send me photos of his shelves, from which I picked out the books I wanted and agreed to pay $x for the books plus $25 for shipping, based on my estimate that media mail would definitely cost less than that. Instead he shipped them from UPS, who charged him $24.xx. I weighed the box when I received it and media mail would have been $12.xx.

I never said to use UPS to ship. The USPS picks up and delivers there every day. They have mail boxes there. If you use their services they will add a fee to anything USPS, but you said you just drop off and already have postage on them. I think you can do that there and the ones around here aren't GFZ's.
 
Thanks - found it. You're right - not much information there - kind of sounds like he had both of his guns on the counter
I pasted the source article from The Bowling Green Press below:

Police: Man brought guns to Scottsville Post Office
  • Nov 6, 2018

An Allen County man was arrested after reportedly bringing firearms to the Scottsville post office.

Scottsville Police Department officers were called to the post office at 12:18 p.m. Monday regarding a person with a gun. Police were informed that the person was wearing a red shirt and jeans and carrying a long gun and a handgun in or around the post office.

The SPD and Allen County Sheriff's Office responded to the location and established a perimeter around the post office.

Police identified Terry L. Stewart, 55, of Scottsville, as the person with the firearms.


Stewart had the weapons on the counter and said he was there to mail the rifle, according to SPD.

Federal law prohibits carrying guns inside a post office and the Scottsville location had signs posted informing people of the law.

Stewart was arrested on charges of carrying a concealed deadly weapon.
So, he was arrested for carrying a "concealed" weapon, but it doesnt say that it was because he was on PO property under that law. Just that he was carrying a concealed weapon. Did he have a permit to carry it concealed? Was he arrested because he didnt?

The article is pretty confusing and lacking in detail.

As far as I know, it is still legal to send firearms through the mail, long guns for us who dont have an FFL, handguns for those who do, which it appears he was trying to do, so if its illegal to have a firearm in the PO, how can you take one there, and be present on the property, to ship it?

What? Are we in another a lost chapter of Catch 22?
 
I generally disregard unconstitutional laws when I can.
As Thomas Jefferson said: "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so".

In principle that's great but in reality the only thing that's going to happen is you'll become a felon.
 
The article is pretty confusing and lacking in detail.
That's an understatement
Not that it would influence my behavior, but I am still interested to know if there has been a case of a ccw permit holding citizen (non PO employee) prosecuted for carrying in a post office. - it would require someone spotting and reporting a (not so) concealed firearm. Or a permit holder brandishing their firearm for what would otherwise be an acceptable reason, but then being prosecuted for the violation of Post Office policy/law
 
In principle that's great but in reality the only thing that's going to happen is you'll become a felon.

We both know that cyberdream reality is far more machismo than the state of things as they actually exist. Comforting to know that all these guys come to the post office armed; consequences be damned, eh? :)
 
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Old Lady New Shooter. I’d be interested in the final solution. Use drop box, use auxiliary postal service leave gun at home or in car. Personally I’d do the latter.
 
Old Lady New Shooter. I’d be interested in the final solution. Use drop box, use auxiliary postal service leave gun at home or in car. Personally I’d do the latter.
Following up our last exchange, I am going to check whether USPS scans in the tracking numbers of items deposited in regular maliboxes, if the answer is yes my life becomes much simpler.

To be honest, I don't like the idea of reholstering in the car, which is causing me to lean away from the idea of leaving the gun in the car to go into the PO. (I'd be fine with driving the few minutes there with it in the glove box or wherever so as not to have to unholster in the car.) So if I can't drop the packages in the mailbox I suppose I'll just make the PO a trip by itself. <sigh>
 
Following up our last exchange, I am going to check whether USPS scans in the tracking numbers of items deposited in regular maliboxes, if the answer is yes my life becomes much simpler.

Of course they do. It's scanned multiple times along the way.

How do I add tracking to my item?

At a Post Office™: Once you pay postage on your qualifying shipping product at the Post Office retail counter, USPS Tracking® is automatically activated. Use the tracking number on your mailing receipt to then access delivery information. See “How do I access tracking information?

Online: Create an USPS.com® online account to print USPS Tracking® labels, purchase mailing/shipping services, buy stamps, etc. The tracking label prints both the label affixed to the product AND a receipt with the tracking number. Access your USPS.com account anytime to retrieve tracking information or status of your item.

Remember that when you pair a USPS Tracking® product with a compatible Extra Service, you can receive proof of delivery, such as a signature. See Domestic Extra Services and International Extra Services for details.

Whichever option you choose — at the Post Office retail counter or online at USPS.com — you’ll have access to the same USPS Tracking® information. Just remember to hold on to your retail receipt! The Postal Service cannot track or locate an item without the tracking number.


https://faq.usps.com/s/article/USPS-Tracking-The-Basics
 
My town is very small. Post office doesn't even have a parking lot. Have to park in the street. So, I just park in the street, leave it in the vehicle, and run in for a couple minutes. I can see my vehicle from my PO Box too.

Stupid law. (Illegal law) The safest place for it is in my holster... BUT nobody ever accused the federal government of doing things the smart way.
 
I’m not sure but if one used the USPS on line shipping feature any shipping label printed out would have a bar code. One would need an accurate scale for weight of course.

The USPS is big into the modern age of computer use and on line business transactions must be a cake walk, for instance I started using an app on my phone called “Informed” delivery. I get an email daily telling me what mail and packages are being delivered the next day. Photos of the items included.
I live between two address Winter Spring. Summer Fall, Informed delivery follows me.
 
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