Hi Point YC-9 "Yeet Cannon" / Next "step up" in 9mm ?

Antihero said:

Have you fired a Bryco 48?

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Not that I know of. The only experience I have with bryco (and lorcin) is replacing parts for people on guns that looked unused. Numerics can send you every single part IME. They very well could have a good model I never met.

crestoncowboy said:

Recoil and Smokey mountain have had them for a couple years now. 3 mags too. Gen 4 with night sights. Occasionally free shipping. I used to only buy local but changed that due to bad attitudes. Smokey mountain is actually local to me as is buds (same parking lot actually. ) but yeah if you wont buy online then you will likely pay more and I respect that. I pay double the standard transfer fee because I like the store I go to.

My point is that the carbine works and is 1/3 the price of the nearest competitor and probably 1/4 of the nearest 10mm competitor. Great value IMO. The handgun just doesnt have the advantage that the carbine does. When I got mine back in 03 and 04 it was different world. The Hi point was about the perfect cheap truck gun at that time. Only guns cheaper were lorcin and Jennings and they were trash.

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I really like my old 9mm hi point carbine, it's insanely accurate for something so cheap and it's overall a very well done gun.

The new carbine stock is horrible. The stupid spring loaded buttstock is idiotic and only serves to jump the gun around. It's certainly not for recoil since they have basically none.

The rubber cheekpiece is too soft and apparently rips off facial hair. I haven't fired it, but handling it almost ripped out stubble. Who designs a gun for people without any facial hair? I mean.....I'm all for women and guns but it seems like you are killing a huge market there

crestoncowboy said:

Not that I know of. The only experience I have with bryco (and lorcin) is replacing parts for people on guns that looked unused. Numerics can send you every single part IME. They very well could have a good model I never met.

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This is a suprisingly good gun, it's a larger 380 that ended up being perfect for my mom many years ago.

They didn't have the s&w EZ back then and midsized single stack 380s were pretty non existent

jdc1244 said:

True.

Hi-Point makes guns for people who don’t like guns – and that’s likely a significant market.

People for whom a gun is only for self-defense, who have no interest in the shooting sports – they’ll take it to the range after buying it, shoot a magazine or two, and never shoot the gun again.

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I wouldn't say they don't like guns. I'd say that they just want something they can afford that works. They don't plan on carrying it or putting thousands rounds through it. I seen some people who own and carry more expensive firearms, but still buy Hi Points because they're so inexpensive. I'll never buy one, but I have purchased Taurus G2s and G2Cs in the past just because I like guns, they work, and because they're so cheap. Not everyone who are purchasing Hi Points or Tauruses are buying them to use for self defense is what I'm getting at.

Antihero said:

I really like my old 9mm hi point carbine, it's insanely accurate for something so cheap and it's overall a very well done gun.

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Mine is the old ugly stock 9mm. I'll get me a 10mm someday just to see.

Styx said:

I guess my post about it's concerns about buying online, buy using, as well as being able to afford the 2x price difference is going over some of your heads? In the end, all that matters is that the gun is reliable, shoots straight, and works for the owner. Hi Points seem to fit the bill. It's an affordable option that works for those who are lower income. What we personally like, can afford, would buy, or where we would purchase from, e.i. online venders, is irrelevant.

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No, I don’t think there is any misunderstanding or anything going over anyone’s heads. For as long as there’s been money there’s been people willing to spend it on cheap stuff for one reason or another. And as long as people have been making things there’s been manufacturers who are willing to make cheap stuff to sell to those folks.

Different means and different levels of interest will always make that true. I consider many people to be penny wise and dollar stupid, which I think explains a lot of it. Some people are just plain cheap.

Hi Points are the gas station knives of the gun world IMO. But people buy those also, and some of those knives will cut....... for a little while.

What doesn’t make sense is that with even a minimal amount of research one can find different options. And if you can save enough for a Hi Point, you can save enough for a used Sigma or some other better designed gun. I don’t doubt what you said about the availability of cheap guns in your area, but that’s a sample of one locality and not necessarily applicable to every location. There’s 4 gun shops and a slew of pawn shops by me and they all have inexpensive but good condition used guns for sale. So my sample of one is different than yours.

I say the more the merrier and cheap guns are welcome. But these seem so god awfully designed and good for only very select circumstances, that it just seems odd to me why anyone would choose these. But it’s their money, so have at it.

Antihero said:

Who designs a gun for people without any facial hair? I mean.....I'm all for women and guns but it seems like you are killing a huge market there

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Why do guys who can't grow a beard try anyway? And lets not forget that segment of the female market that can.

This whole thread makes me roll my eyes. Who decides on what gun to buy based on a price difference equivalent to a few hundred rounds of ammo? The major cost of shooting is not the price of the gun.

That said, I'd add that my momma told me, "Son don't you buy no ugly gun!"
(she never saw the Suomi)

IMO, the Hi-Points are fine as a range pistol - they're actually pretty accurate once you get a hang of the trigger - but at least IME they have a habit of jamming about once per box, more if you feed them ammo they don't like (mine hates steel ammo). If I was counting on one for HD, that would scare the crap out of me.

So just throwing some names out there on super-budget stuff that mike work better:

-Remington R51s are $199 on Buds. Never shot one, but they can't be worse than a Hi-Point.

-RIA makes the M200 38 Special revolvers in the low $200s new. It's a revolver, your fingers are doing all the work to cycle it, it's not going to jam.

-Smith SD9VEs can be found around $270 online and are usually $300-$350 in brick and mortar. We're leaving Hi Point territory here at 2x the price, but these are real deal pistols. The trigger sucks, but everything else about them is surprisingly up-market for what you pay. Mine has fed a couple hundred rounds of 9mm and never even thought about choking - with the Glock action, that's normal too.

And as I got typing this out, I got thinking: would 9mm NATO ammo make a Hi-Point run more reliably? IIRC, it was loaded hot to give a little more umph to drive blowback submachine guns - maybe it can help drive blowback budget pistols too? Mine's a 45 so of course I've never checked.

And check those SCCY 9mm pistol for about 180ish and $199 in LGS seems a much better option, Of course what ever blows up yer skirt is OK with me. As long as it's not stolen that is !

And to add to the confusion let me say the Taurus G2C is a great gun for $229.

When the new HiPoint Yeet Cannon comes out I'm going to buy one. Not because I expect to like it. Not because I think it will be a good gun. I'm going to buy it because I like their sense of humor, and want to reward them for actually doing what they said they would- letting the internet name it. Plus calling it a Yeet Cannon is truth-in-advertising, because if it fails you'll need to Yeet it at your attacker. Hey, I wouldn't want to get pegged with one of these suckers- they're bloody heavy! Besides- if I have ever run out of ammo and need to beat a whale to death, this is the tool for the job!

Mosin Bubba said:

IMO, the Hi-Points are fine as a range pistol - they're actually pretty accurate once you get a hang of the trigger - but at least IME they have a habit of jamming about once per box, more if you feed them ammo they don't like (mine hates steel ammo). If I was counting on one for HD, that would scare the crap out of me.

So just throwing some names out there on super-budget stuff that mike work better:

-Remington R51s are $199 on Buds. Never shot one, but they can't be worse than a Hi-Point.

-RIA makes the M200 38 Special revolvers in the low $200s new. It's a revolver, your fingers are doing all the work to cycle it, it's not going to jam.

-Smith SD9VEs can be found around $270 online and are usually $300-$350 in brick and mortar. We're leaving Hi Point territory here at 2x the price, but these are real deal pistols. The trigger sucks, but everything else about them is surprisingly up-market for what you pay. Mine has fed a couple hundred rounds of 9mm and never even thought about choking - with the Glock action, that's normal too.

And as I got typing this out, I got thinking: would 9mm NATO ammo make a Hi-Point run more reliably? IIRC, it was loaded hot to give a little more umph to drive blowback submachine guns - maybe it can help drive blowback budget pistols too? Mine's a 45 so of course I've never checked.

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S&B .45 ACP is pretty warm. I get about 860-870 fps out of a 5" barrel where most of the other ball runs 780-840 fps.

S&B 124 9mm NATO did 1270 fps out of a Beretta 92FS so I would say it's on the warm side as well. I think that was German Contract Overun. I'm not sure if all S&B NATO is created equal.

94045 said:

S&B .45 ACP is pretty warm. I get about 860-870 fps out of a 5" barrel where most of the other ball runs 780-840 fps.

S&B 124 9mm NATO did 1270 fps out of a Beretta 92FS so I would say it's on the warm side as well. I think that was German Contract Overun. I'm not sure if all S&B NATO is created equal.

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Thanks for the heads-up. I don't have a chrono, so I never would've known.

I'll go look for that the next time I'm out ammo shopping.

"Horrible looks, ergonomics were more horriblerer, and trigger was 'unique'"
"The 9 was a two pound pig"
"duck decoy anchor"

Mr OP , the assessments you volunteered , based on your own experience , are telling.

I have come up with something postive to say about the YEET Cannon -
Without it we would not have had this most entertaining thread.

I found this image on Google of Hi Point's 357 Sig they are developing.




And apparently there is a 10mm being developed for 2021 also.

460Shooter said:

Hi Points are the gas station knives of the gun world IMO. But people buy those also, and some of those knives will cut....... for a little while.

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My take on it is a little different. Hi-Points are almost like cold-war Soviet tools. Rather than using materials science or fine engineering to make something reliable, they just threw brute mass at it. Zero consideration to user egronomics, "gun goes bang" level of performance goals, certainly no effort expended on style.

From what I have read, Hi-Points don't really have any longevity issues, and certainly aren't focused on superficial looks (which is how I would characterize gas station knives). If you're just looking for a device to chuck lead projectiles at something, and that is truly your only performance criteria, then Hi-Points seem pretty viable. Most people, however, should have other performance criteria.