Steel Case 9MM in PCC.

Just the case is steel! I had used it before the ammo is good to use but I’ve seen a lot better.

Yup. Just the case is steel.

All my PCCs have shot steel cases just fine. The 40 S&W and 45 ACP ones have even shot reloaded steel cases.

All you need is a little extra cleaning due to how dirty it tends to be. Nothing you shouldn't already be doing.

I was under the impression that bi metal fmj bullets contain an alloy of copper and iron. Which is why they say it is magnetic because the actual bullet contains iron.

The case and the jacket are soft steel. The bullets are steel with a copper plating which is why they attract a magnet. They probably wear out the barrel throat faster than copper bullets, but I have shot a few hundred rounds of tula ammo in my 9mm carbine and they function well and are as accurate as any other FMJ ammo.

Nope, bullet is steel, too. Softer than your barrel, more wear than copper, but still not bad.

My Keltec Sub2000 eats them like candy. A little dirty, but not horrible.

Tula has some "range friendly" ammo, steel case but copper bullet. Not sure if they have it in 9mm yet.

whughett said:

“1000 rounds of 9mm Luger 115 grain FMJ Steel Case Ammo made by Tula in Russia. This ammo is a bi-metal magnetic FMJ bullet and may be copper colored alloy or silver colored alloy, as pictured. Box size may be 50 or 100 rounds per box within the case depending on current stock.”

Amy body use this stuff in their PCC’s or other firearms.
I’m a little confused with the wording. Is the case steel or bullet and case.

Owners manual for a recently acquired MPA20SST suggest just FMJ no weight or remarks on case composition.

Email to costumer service handed off to another rep, but no response yet.

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i mostly shoot at ranges or matches that forbid any magnetic projectiles so I don’t bother with it. Plus I reload my brass cases. And I’ve seen a lot of people having trouble with steel cased ammo particularly in PCCs.

Regarding the steel case Tula 9 mm Luger ammunition, the case is mild steel which is polymer-coated to prevent rusting. The projectile cores are lead, like most other types of FMJ ammunition. The projectile jackets are "bimetalic". Tula makes two different kinds of 9 mm Luger steel case ammo with bimetalic jackets. The more common type is steel with a thin coat of copper. These projectiles have a copper color and look like copper jacketed FMJ projectiles. The other variety has bimetallic jackets that are an alloy of steel and zinc which have a dull silver color.

When shot the barrel rifling will engrave the projectile and cut through the thin copper coat so you will have mild steel bearing on the lands of the barrel. How much additional barrel wear this will cause has been debated and depends on how fast you shoot and how hot you get the barrel. Lucky Gunner did an extensive test of steel case 223 Rem/5,56x45 ammunition with bimetallic jackets versus brass case ammo with copper jackets in ARs. The bimetallic projectiles did result in more rapid barrel wear (after thousands of rounds) but they shot the rifles very fast and got the barrels quite hot. Of course, muzzle velocities were also much higher than they would be for any 9 mm Luger ammo shot through a PCC.

Under the conditions most PCC owners would likely shoot, the potential for increased barrel wear with the bimetallic jackets might be a non-issue.

https://www.luckygunner.com/9mm-115-grain-fmj-tula-black-1000-rounds


This cartridge complies with CIP requirements and the casing features a polymer-coated steel casing with a non-corrosive Berdan Primer. The projectile features a bimetal jacket (contains steel and zinc) and a lead core resulting in excellent ballistics characteristics. Zinc is a softer metal than copper, and as a result should have less barrel wear than copper, while producing the same ballistics.

Many, most indoor ranges will check ammo with a magnet and do not allow this ammo as the steel in the bullets mess up their backstops.

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Rule3 said:

This cartridge complies with CIP requirements and the casing features a polymer-coated steel casing with a non-corrosive Berdan Primer. T

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The polymer may be sintered Teflon, or wax!. In the book "Ammunition Making" by George Frost, aluminum case ammunition has a wax coating so it will not stick in the chamber. Which is undoubtedly why the steel cases are coated with a "polymer". Also helps with rust proofing, so it is a win win for the user. Incidentally, grease, oil, teflon, wax are all polymers.

There are almost no pictures of the armor piercing steel jacketed bullets from WW1 and earlier. In a book on Serbian arms, a box of Austrian 8mm is shown, but the grease on the bullets has basically rotted. But, several countries issued steel jacketed bullets, and because this was early in bullet jacket technology, to prevent barrel wear, these bullets were issued with a grease coating. By the 1970's the Swiss had figured out perfectly fine bullet jackets, but they still had grease on the bullets, which I do believe reduced wear in the throats.



Some bullets are still being sold with a grease ring, probably to help reduce friction between the bullet and barrel, and get the subsonic bullet out the tube!



anyone worried about increased chamber wear due to steel case ammunition, or barrel wear, just put a drop of oil on every other cartridge in the stack, just at the joint of bullet to case. I have been doing this in 2700 Bullseye, with my low powered 45 ACP ammunition. The oil is blown up the barrel and out the back of the chamber. (That oil positively keeps the slide rails lubricated!) I have been surprised how easily the barrel cleans up after a match, no leading or jacket fouling to speak off.

I shoot the Tula ,Wolf stuff out my AK, it's not gonna hurt those!

The best thing to do is to buy a small amount of it and test it to see how YOUR gun performs with it.

I'll agree with the responses above. Dirty, kind of smells like cat pee, but it's functional and cheaper than brass case ammo. Barrel wear is greater than copper jacketed ammo, but at 9mm pressures and velocities it's academic.

I have nothing against steel case ammo, but as cheap as brass case 9mm has been lately, I don't see a reason to bother with it. When WWB 45 ACP is $25 a box and Tula is $15, those suckers are getting fed steel ammo all day. When WWB is $9 a box and Tula is $8, I'll just shoot WWB instead. Say I go out and shoot 2 boxes of pistol ammo - it's the difference between saving $2 and saving $20.

My prices may be a little out of date, I'm sitting flush on a hoard of brass 9mm I stacked deep and so I haven't bought any more in a while.

Rule3 said:

I shoot the Tula ,Wolf stuff out my AK, it's not gonna hurt those!

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Oh yeah, they were made for that stuff. I haven't had my AK or SKS choke on a round yet.

It would actually feel wrong to feed them brass ammo, not that I'm ever going to when the WWB and Federal FMJ loads are like 4x more expensive than Wolf.

Neighbors son got a restraining order and his pops called me to take his ammo.
8k of 9mm and 45 tulammo.
My scorpion has shot nothing but steel cased 9mm for a little over a year now.
A couple of weak rounds but the vast majority were fine.

The Norinco 1911 has gobbled up the 45 and screamed for more.

Got about 2k left of both and when I run out il get more cheap steel cased.

The dirty part isn't a hangup. I shot a lot of black powder firearms.

My sub-2000 functions fine with the cheap Winchester steel case ammo. The instructions warn against aluminum cases but doesn’t mention steel cases.