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IMO everyone needs a 22 rimfire. If I hunted dangerous game I'd choose either the 375 Ruger or 375 H&H, but until I get that chance will hold off on that purchase.

For varmints and cheap target shootin one of the 22 centerfires is the way I'd go. I chose 223 because ammo is dirt cheap, everywhere and it is good enough. A good argument can be made for 22-250, but since I also own AR's I want my bolt gun in the same cartridge.

For everything between varmints and dangerous game ANYTHING 26 caliber and up can get the job done. Pick the one you like. The decision should be made based on how much recoil you are willing to tolerate, how far you have the skills to hit game, where you hunt, and the game most commonly hunted, cost, and availability of ammo.

I like the 243 as a varmint/deer combo rifle. But it is too close to 223 performance to justify both. I'd go 223 and skip right over 243 to 6.5 CM. In 2020 6.5 CM factory ammo is more plentiful on shelves and at better prices. You can choose between varmint loads, deer loads, elk loads, or factory loads suitable for 1000 yard competition right off the shelves. Even at Walmart. Recoil is only slightly more than 243, considerably less than 308 or 7-08

I've owned just about everything from 243 up to 35 Whelen including the 7mm and 30 caliber magnums as well as several 45-70's. I spent most of my hunting career carrying a 30-06. But today there is no animal that I'd hunt with any of those that I'd not hunt with my 308's or 6.5 CM. If forced to choose 2 centerfire cartridges I'd go 223 and 308 and I'd hunt everything in North America.
 
I am really fond of my 7-08 Tikka T3. My ideal deer rifle. I have had 2 .243 Remington Rifles. Both tack drivers. I have never really liked it for hunting because of bullet performance. But that was in the 80's. I like the .223 or 7-08 because neither has failed me.
 
I am looking at this to expand my own gun battery, while making something useful for my kids. The .243 seemed like a useful caliber to do both. Maybe the way I should be looking at it is get the .223 to fill the gap between .22lr and .30-06. Then look at a rifle for the kids, (.243 - 6.5mmx55, .260, 6.5Creedmoor, 7mm-08, etc). On paper it seemed the .243 would be a nice place to start because it does both.

Rethinking a bit. Maybe start with .223 and then if the kids show interest...then buy them a dedicated CXP2 "deer" rifle.

Mike
 
If you're planning on hunting deer / pronghorn CPX2 game, the .243 Winchester can be a dedicated CPX2 game rifle, using .22RF for varmints within it's effective range, and / or a .223. There's plenty of CPX2 game in the resume of the .243 Winchester.

If you're going to jump from hunting varmints with .2RF & .223 to CPX3 game with your kids, then adding a more recognized CPX2 / CPX3 game cartridge might make more sense.

It's all just a matter of $$$.
 
Nothing wrong about that.
Agreed, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that!

There's never been a better time than now for small & speedy rifle cartridges with the current array of projectile designs to choose from. My .25-06 rifle took all the game I bagged in 2019 with shots ranging from 25 yards or so to 100 yards or so, with impact velocities all north of 2800 fps. No chasing, no tracking, bang-flop with one feral hog receiving a finishing shot because a hind leg was still kicking after 10 seconds or so after a chunk of its neck the size of a golf ball at the exit was removed by my first shot, which hit a little high of the vertebrae. Some would consider that second shot unnecessary as that hog was down on its side and there was zero chance of it getting back up on its feet, but it made me feel good to see that kicking stop immediately after my second shot which unmistakably broke its neck.

There's effective factory reduced recoil ammo for a whole slew of rifle cartridges including .243 Winchester available as well.
 
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I guess it depends on where you live. When I started reading this thread I just natural applied my neck of the woods to this rifle battery. Then I went back and read the original post. California. I escaped form there in 74.
So in my mind I was thinking (Alaska) 22lr, 260 Rem, 30/30, or 30-06, 35 Whelen, then something heavier, 45-70 or something that will use 350 to 450 grain bullets.
So after I reread the OP and discovered my mistake. With that in mind, I would add to your 22lr and 30-06 you have, a 223,always a good choice, then consider a Marlin in 35 Remington. While the 30-30 is always a good choice, a shorter range cartridge like the 35 Rem might be a better choice then a 30-30 as you already have a 30-06.
I love the 30-30 as I have 4 and would not be without one, but, the 35 gives a little diversity.
As stated in above the 6.5 Creed is quite readily available in many loading's and lots of rifle choices. While I have a 260 Rem, if I had it to do over again, it would be a 6.5 Creed for those reasons.
 
Maybe an entirely new thread will be needed, but any suggestions on a rifle?
I got a Browning a few years ago. Couldn’t be happier. I happened to get a screaming deal on mine, but they’re typically competitively priced considering the quality. CRF. Mine in 7 mag shoots sub 1/2” with hand loads and match bullets

Besides, they’re the best there is. Has to be true, ‘cause that’s what they advertise. :)
 
So I have put more thought into what I think I would ultimately purchase and as noted I own a 22LR and an all around rifle in .30-06. As centerfire rifles go, a .223 potentially .243. A 30-30. And then a dedicated CXP2 7mm-08. I don’t think I will ever need or want any of the magnums 7mm or 300win mag nor .338 or anything larger than .30-06. So opportunity to fill rifle selections and double duty for kids. Would a 7mm-08 be too much for a new shooter (15 year old girl - 115lbs?). I suppose a lot of this will just depend on the kid.

sort of thinking .243 - .30-30 and 7mm08 to fill those categories and give the wife and kids some rifles to shoot. First choice still seems like .243 and then go from there.

Mike
 
to come at this from another perspective, you may have hit on why Pistol Cal Carbines are popular - just good practice and training, cheap ammo, but a little more than a .22 for sure. I have a 30-30 and would let a competent teen shoot it from a bench, but I'd want them to have a good pad on their shoulder and to really make sure the are holding it correctly against their shoulder.
 
This is like buying your mom a basketball for her birthday.......”well if you aren’t going to use it, then I guess I will”

more to the point. I am looking at rifles at various calibers to create a logical small collection while providing some crossover for the other family members.....to help justify a purchase.

Mike
 
I have yet to see a hog around Watsonville ! Plenty of good deer there tho as hunting pressure is light. 20 acres could do it. If using the 30-06 I reccommend #1 sighting it in dead on at 100 yards and use the lighter 150 grain bullets .. #2 on a small acreage like that be double sure of your back stop and aim carefully thru front shoulders so it can't run . Try to only shoot once no more than twice if you have two. A single shot unexpected is hard for neighbors to pinpoint and call sheriffs. This part of California is enemy occupied territory :(
If you ever get tired of the west coast you are welcome here in Fl.
 
If you ever get tired of the west coast you are welcome here in Fl.
My second wifes Mom lived in Hollywood Florida and we visited regularly in the 80s. I have a ton of friends who moved to Florida and love it. I love Oregon especially with an 8 hour drive I am on the ocean in sunny central Calif family property in winter :)
 
I can't believe we're 2 pages in & no one has yet mentioned the most obvious choice: 6.5 Grendel.

Less recoil than your 30-30, even in a lighter rifle.

Far more range capability.

https://www.swfa.com/howa-1500-mini-rifle-6-5-grendel-1.html
Or
https://www.budsgunshop.com/mobile/product/24854/redirect

@troy fairweather @LoonWulf
Am I sending this gent down the right path?
Ya it will work fine, for the money the cz be my choice,Only thing is the mini actions can be hard to scope properly, even a normal 3-9x40 can make them feel heavy and look odd. 243 would be good to.
 
I like the Grendel, so much so i have a minibolty and a semi...
.243 will do what the op wants, so would a 6.5grendel, .250 Savage, 6mm creedmoor, and others.
For cheap it's hard to beat the .223, x39, or even the Grendel now that wolfs making cheap blasting ammo, but gun wise a .243 will probably cost less unless the others are in an AR.

I constantly have about a dozen rifles, and just swap them out as fancy takes me. What I've found is that unless there is a REALLY specific task, nearly anything will work unless it's way, way, to one side of the spectrum of other.
Honestly my recommendation is to buy something your interested in and go from there.
 
So I have put more thought into what I think I would ultimately purchase and as noted I own a 22LR and an all around rifle in .30-06. As centerfire rifles go, a .223 potentially .243. A 30-30. And then a dedicated CXP2 7mm-08. I don’t think I will ever need or want any of the magnums 7mm or 300win mag nor .338 or anything larger than .30-06. So opportunity to fill rifle selections and double duty for kids. Would a 7mm-08 be too much for a new shooter (15 year old girl - 115lbs?). I suppose a lot of this will just depend on the kid.

sort of thinking .243 - .30-30 and 7mm08 to fill those categories and give the wife and kids some rifles to shoot. First choice still seems like .243 and then go from there.

Mike
There's reduced recoil factory ammo available in 7mm-08 for the recoil sensitive (as well as for .243 Winchester and. 30-06 Springfield, among others). A consideration for the concept of a multiple user rifle shared among various family members.

I agree with your thought of this being a "family" gift vs making the rifle explicitly a gift for a single family member such as your daughter. That also keeps it from having a hand-me-down association with anyone else using the rifle.
 
If you ever get tired or the west coast you are welcome here in Fl.
My second wifes Mom lived in Hollywood Florida and we visited regularly in the 80s. I have a ton of friends who moved to Florida and love it. I love Oregon especially with an 8 hour drive I am on the ocean in sunny central Calif family property in winter :)
I know what you mean about Oregon. Back in 69 after hs graduation my two best friends and myself took a road trip from Fl to Oregon (Sandy) in a 68 Corolla with no a/c. It was great, and I fell in love with the weather and the beautiful scenery up there. I think of all the paces I have been Oregon was the best.
 
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