Another guy having dilemma choosing his first lever action cartridge

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I don't know your area, but here in Texas there is very little public land available for hunting.

You may want to check the TDW and check in to what used to be called Type 2 hunting. It was around $45 per year and a lot of it was in the piney woods of east Tx. They gave you a map book and you could pick where you wanted to hunt. After opening weekend you pretty much had the whole place to yourself.

Not too far from me in Decatur we have the National Grasslands. These are BP and shotgun and it keeps a lot of people out. But there are some giant bucks running around there. You have to be a real hunter to get close to one. Its pretty wooly up there in some spots. There are some fishing tanks as well. All open to the public.
 
Perhaps one last question - I just now found a used Marlin 1894CS for sale online.

I thought the CS meant Carbine, Safety. But I'm not certain. That Marlin Owners link I posted is the best place for answers on Marlin rifles. They are good people there and some of the members here post over there.

Most prefer the Marlins with the Ballard rifling since they will shoot lead bullets better. But stick to jacketed and the Micro Groove barrels do just fine.
 
Plinking is kind of pointless to me. I go to the range only for training and testing new ammo/gun. So let's not talk about having a plinking gun.

Howdy

Sorry you feel that way, nothing is as much fun as sending soup cans flying at the 25 yard berm with a revolver or the 50 yard berm with a rifle. With open sights I might add. Pretty good practice for precision shooting too.

Let me guess, I'm guessing from your questions you are a bit on the young side.

I have lots of lever guns. But not being a hunter I never bothered to buy a Winchester Model 1894. Then one day probably about ten years ago I came across the carbine at the bottom of this photo. Difficult to date it, best I can do it shipped some time between 1943 and 1948. Caliber is 30WCF (30 Winchester Center Fire or 30/30).

I came across the beauty at the top just a few months ago. Old fashioned crescent shaped butt plate, 26" octagon barrel, and a tang sight. This one is a 30WCF too. It shipped in 1895, the second year the model was made.

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If I were a hunter, the carbine would probably make a pretty good brush gun. Compact and not very heavy, about six pounds eight ounces.

The rifle (the longer one) weighs in at eight pounds fourteen ounces. I think I would get pretty tired schlepping it through the woods for very long, but like I said I'm not a hunter.

Let me tell you about crescent shaped butt plates. Many, many years ago (I was in my early twenties) I had another 1894. It was a rifle whose barrel had been cut down to 20". The magazine had been shortened too. And it had a crescent shaped butt plate. Being cut down to carbine length it was very light. I had never fired a 30-30 before, particularly not one with a crescent shaped butt plate. I was working at a summer camp way up in New York State, and the camp was surrounded by miles and miles of forest. So on my day off I took my new treasure out to a sand pit to try it out. There is a proper way to mount a crescent shaped butt plate. You don't put it against the meaty part of your shoulder. 30-30 is not a really hard kicking round, but let me tell you, after about three rounds out of that light rifle with those sharp points digging into my shoulder in recoil I had had enough. It was many years before I learned the proper way to mount a crescent shaped butt plate is to hike it further out on the shoulder, so the points encircle the shoulder joint. That way, the points do not dig into flesh, they do what they were designed to do, keep the butt from slipping up or down. That rifle was stolen may years ago, I wish I still had it to try to shoot it properly.

I only have one rifle chambered for 357 Mag, the little Marlin Model 1894CS at the bottom of this photo. That's a Marlin Model 1894 from 1894 at the top of the photo.

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Anyway, I bought the little Marlin for my wife, who used to shoot cowboy with me. A very nice little rifle. It seldom goes to the range with me these days, but when it does I usually fire 38 Specials out of it. This one makes a very nice plinker with 38s, but again, you're not interested in that. Even if it would sharpen up your skills sending soup cans flying at the 50 yard berm. (hint,hint)

I don't remember how much I paid for 30-30 ammo the last time I bought some, but looking at Midway USA it seems to be running around $18 - $29 for a box of 20.

357 Mag seems to be running around $25 - $35 for a box of 50. Much cheaper than shooting a 30-30.

I reload my own 38s, so I don't pay attention to how much they cost, but they are probably going to run you less than a 357 Mag.
 
Howdy Again

No idea what the CS means in a Marlin 1894CS, but that's what this one is. I bought it used probably close to 20 years ago.

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P.S. I just weighed the little Marlin. It too weighs about 6 pounds 8 ounces. Pretty handy little rifle, a fun shooter with 38 Specials, a serious little rifle with 357 Mags.
 
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I thought the CS meant Carbine, Safety. But I'm not certain. That Marlin Owners link I posted is the best place for answers on Marlin rifles. They are good people there and some of the members here post over there.

Most prefer the Marlins with the Ballard rifling since they will shoot lead bullets better. But stick to jacketed and the Micro Groove barrels do just fine.

CS = Carbine with Safety. That's what I understand as well.
 
Howdy Again

No idea what the CS means in a Marlin 1894CS, but that's what this one is. I bought it used probably close to 20 years ago.

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Since your barrel is not stamper Micro-Groove I am guessing yours is Ballard rifled? Your gun looks like mine.

I've also read that 2 asterisks on each side of the lower line of rollmarked text is for a Microgroove barrel, while 3 or 4 asterisks on each side indicate a Ballard (traditional) rifled barrel. ???
 
I've also read that 2 asterisks on each side of the lower line of rollmarked text is for a Microgroove barrel, while 3 or 4 asterisks on each side indicate a Ballard (traditional) rifled barrel. ???

Thats a new one on me. All mine that have micro groove say so on the barrel. I may have to do some checking.
 
Regarding that 1894 CS above, I've done a quick search on Marlin owners forum and it's indeed Carbine with Safety.
They also say that Marlin dropped that 'S' and called the gun 1894C on 2001.

I just want to get a second confirmation from here since the last thing I want to buy is a Marlin made right after 2007.
 
I have two lever guns. One in 44 mag and the other in 22.

My reason for having them is for the fun of shooting them. Thats the only reason I need.
 
I just want to get a second confirmation from here since the last thing I want to buy is a Marlin made right after 2007.

I would suggest that any Marlin you buy you look at it first and look down the bore with a light. Check the action for smoothness. I like Taurus guns but I prefer to look at all revolvers first hand before I buy one. The Marlin owners site can set you straight on codes for build dates.
 
I'm trying to think of something I can tell you that you haven't already considered.

There's this: a fairly brisk ten rounds fired through the 30-30 is going to heat it up enough that you're going to want to set it aside a little while to allow it to cool. Heating will be much less of a factor with the .357. For that matter, if you want, you can fire .38 Specials in the .357. Cooling time may be important if range time is precious. Then recoil is to be considered. I don't think of either as heavy recoiling rifles, but thirty or forty rounds of 30-30 from a lightweight carbine, and you're going to feel it the next day.

Whichever way you go, you're not going too far wrong. Sometimes which rifle you want is more emotional than logical. An example: when I pick up my '94 Winchester 38-55 with the heavy twenty-six inch octagonal barrel and the large sporting sights, I know I can do about as much with it, as I can expect with any mid-frame lever rifle, but when I wrap my hands around the barely five-pound half-magazine 38 WCF and its tiny sights something in me just says, yes. I don't intentionally set out to hunt with the little rifle, but more than once opportunities have come by, and that's the rifle in hand.

Consider it it like this, whichever you have in hand, you'll make it work.
 
I would suggest that any Marlin you buy you look at it first and look down the bore with a light. Check the action for smoothness. I like Taurus guns but I prefer to look at all revolvers first hand before I buy one. The Marlin owners site can set you straight on codes for build dates.
The problem here in NJ is that we don't really have much chance to shop for guns offline.
Even if there's the gun we want, the price is usually 20% higher than they're sold online with shipping.

I guess I will gamble with this one then. If it's really a JM, I won't mind spending a little more to tweak the action.
If it's not, I will see what I can do...
 
The problem here in NJ is that we don't really have much chance to shop for guns offline.
Even if there's the gun we want, the price is usually 20% higher than they're sold online with shipping.

I guess I will gamble with this one then. If it's really a JM, I won't mind spending a little more to tweak the action.
If it's not, I will see what I can do...

Good luck and get back with us with updates. Looking forward to seeing pics of whatever you get. :cool:
 
So to conclude of this thread, I've decided on Marlin .357 18". Thanks to all the comments.

This is the one I bought just now: https://www.guns.com/firearms/rifle...r-action-10-rounds-18-barrel-6-4-used?p=46151

Zooming in one of the pictures, this mark right here very much resembling "JM" to me:
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Serial number starts with "MH", not "MR", although I can't find any decoding for MH.
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And there's no "REP" or "REM" on the right
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The gun is probably 19+ years old, but certified by guns.com and, as per the description, it's never been fired (how can that even be true...).

So, unless there's something seriously wrong with the "CS" models, $600 is a very good deal that I cannot pass.
 
Looks very nice. I am sure you will enjoy it. And later if you decide you want a big jump in power you can get something else. 30-30 or bolt gun in a modern flat shooting cartridge.
 
I bet you are gonna really, really like that gun. And you got a steal at $600. As soon as you shoot a box of ammo through it the price will be forgotten. Of course a follow up thread on how it shoots is mandatory.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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