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I have been seeing stories about the large numbers of weapons being sold during this virus crisis we have going on. Some of the local gun dealers have stated that many of the people buying guns now are first time gun buyers which makes sense since most of us have what we need and wouldn't buy anything new when the market is up and one have to pay top dollar. I'm wondering if it is true that most of the buyers are first time gun owners could this help our cause when it comes to elections and these people learn that some of the people they have supported in the pass want to take the very guns they just got away from them.
 
I would like to think that all these new buyers will join the pro gun thought. My thought on this is IF it goes south with looting and incidents where people are attempting to get basics from others...they will keep their guns for the next possible scenario. Those will be the ones joining the 2A drive. If it is mild and there is minimal then those owners will likely put them back on the market FS once it settles back to "normal".
 
There are Lib and Conservative gun owners who hate the NRA, want an AWB, UBC, Red Flag laws, and magazine capacity limits. There are gun owners who aren't into or follow gun culture. They aren't collectors, know the laws, etc. They just own a gun. Many of the aforementioned do not vote or do vote, but will never vote for Republicans because firearm rights isn't in their top 100 of things they base their votes on...

Owning a gun doesn't not make them pro-gun rights.
 
Plus no one really knows how many people are actually new gun owners or whether they'll sell off their purchase at a later date. This is all speculation and conjure.. I'm not buying that the majority of those who are buying ammo and firearms are new first time gun owners. I hear the same anecdotal secondhand stories being spread from gun forum to gun forum.
 
I think it's mostly gun owners and moderates flooding in. Curbside carry out Glocks by the hundreds.

Lefties can't even fill a pantry with canned goods, the idea of them buying a gun and joining our cause is pure wishful thinking.

The NRA sux. They need to get it together. At this point I'm done with politics.
 
One may hope that people finally coming to the realization that they're in charge of their own security will become proficient, responsible gun owners who have seen the light and will vote and act pro-gun. :thumbup:

I don't think that's the case with many, if not most, of these first-time gun buyers. This is a response to a potential threat, rather than a tangible or ongoing threat, to their safety. Once things calm down? I believe they'll have shot their new gun a few times at most (If they even could find somewhere to shoot it) then put it in mothballs in the closet until the next issue pops up. :(

If you do run across a newbie, welcome them into the fold, give sound advice, maybe even offer to teach them to shoot if you know how to teach. If more of us did this then my fears of apathetic gun owners driving the market will be greatly reduced.

Stay safe.
 
I wonder if that is where all those like new in the box 1950/60 guns come from? Folks in a panic over the USSR and missiles in Cuba.
 
I have a friend that lives close by. His wife won't even let him dead catch a mouse, let alone have a firearm in house. There may be those who are that way and changed their minds and made a last minute purchase.

I agree with what bikerdoc says and there may be more than we think (used firearms) after the the crisis winds down.
 
I'm guessing many of them are first time buyers who were thinking about buying and want to do it "before things get any worse". Some of them are likely panicky snowflakes also that assume the world is ending because they are being asked to stay home. There are hoarders out there too who are on the opposite end of silly.

Tax returns are likely feeding into these decisions.

Then there's people like me who just happened to have a deal in the works at the current time and it added to the numbers.
 
I have been seeing stories about the large numbers of weapons being sold during this virus crisis we have going on. Some of the local gun dealers have stated that many of the people buying guns now are first time gun buyers which makes sense since most of us have what we need and wouldn't buy anything new when the market is up and one have to pay top dollar. I'm wondering if it is true that most of the buyers are first time gun owners could this help our cause when it comes to elections and these people learn that some of the people they have supported in the pass want to take the very guns they just got away from them.
Here we go again..
YES, many new, first time buyers. Most have seen it's pretty easy to buy a gun, BG check delays not-with-standing but no big restrictions. They know it's legal, they know they have a clean record and they have the $..

I doubt many really know the ins and outs of the 2A or the RKBA 'discussions'.

Pablum from some obscure candidate or political figure are political talking points, aimed at certain demographics, nothing more. NOBODY is going to take anybody's gun away..Something on the order of 230 MILLION guns..and the Feds don't keep a gun registry BY LAW..no $, manpower or political will.

BUT, as with the other, now closed discussion, a new gun owner 'may' be interested in the 2A discussions and the ability to protect one's self but again, actually buying it was probably pretty easy..virus delays not with standing.

BUT, I think the majority will buy it, then store it as the dust settles..and wait for the next crisis. This buying is a reflection of THIS crisis, not a reflection of an ongoing crisis..they are in the 'just in case' group.

ATMO..
 
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Likely this means there will be even more gun owners out there who have no idea what they are doing with a gun but bought because of fear, all of which means increased chances of accidents and such. That can't be good for anyone.

If the public actually knew how many people have high powered guns that they have no idea how to use safely, they would go out of their minds and the gun control movement would be given a gift they never imagined.

People on this group are serious and experienced; there are many who are not.
 
Lot's of baseless speculation going on... Everyone is new to guns, they're going to support 2A, they're going to be floods of used like new guns on the market, then doomsday predictions (similar to what anti-governors who have been closing gunships have been saying and why anties have been calling for government mandated training for years) about how the hundreds of thousands of nameless, faceless liberals are going to be walking around with these guns accidentally shooting themselves and others...

The fact is we don't know who's buying what, what their political affiliation are, how they used to feel about guns, whether they already owned guns or have any experience, whether they'll put the gun up or will sell it off, whether they're going to take firearm ownership seriously, or how this all will play out. All we have is a bunch of negative leaning guessing.
 
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Likely this means there will be even more gun owners out there who have no idea what they are doing with a gun but bought because of fear, all of which means increased chances of accidents and such. That can't be good for anyone.

If the public actually knew how many people have high powered guns that they have no idea how to use safely, they would go out of their minds and the gun control movement would be given a gift they never imagined.

People on this group are serious and experienced; there are many who are not.

Yeah. Because we all know that no one new to anything is ever interested in learning how to do it safely.







For the slow among you, that's called sarcasm.
 
Will there be an increase in lightly used guns on the market? - yep.

Will some of the new gun owners become 2A supporters? - yep.

Will some new gun owners keep their guns, but still be anti-2A because they don't want the blood thirsty knuckle draggers out in flyover country to have guns? - yep.
 
Panic buying is stupid in general but I guess panic buying a gun makes more sense that toilet paper in uncertain times. I'm still trying to figure out the psychology on that one.

I have a suspicion that a lot of the gun buying has been by existing owners, but hopefully some folks are learning a lesson right now about the importance of being able to defend yourself and your home. I just wish the hoarding would stop because that hurts everybody.
 
I know lots of Fudds that have owned a good number of their hunting guns for years. They will not give one dime or join the call of our freedoms. Why should the newbies with their first gun join? Sure SOME will, but will it be significant?
 
I never said everyone or all. I simply said there are lots of newbies out there who know nothing and don't understand that responsible handling involves practice and knowledge. Somehow they think just having the gun is protection.

There is one guy around here who runs CPL classes and because he is so concerned that everyone gets to use their constitutional right he will run classes of 50 people at once and the people in the class only shoot about twenty rounds the entire day. I know someone who took the class, and I can tell you this person knows nothing about the gun and does not practice but totes the thing around. This person can't always hit the target board at six yards. This person is a public danger and so is the guy who passes people out of a class like that.

Again, I never said no one.

Yeah. Because we all know that no one new to anything is ever interested in learning how to do it safely.







For the slow among you, that's called sarcasm.
 
Although I no longer work in a LGS, I do manage to visit 4 or 5 shops every week or so. A couple of weeks ago, I could barely get in the door of these shops because of all the new buyers. I watched for several minutes at a couple of different stores. Here is some non-baseless speculation -- I've seen it before, or at least similar situations. The first was 1968 with the passed of the infamous 1968 gun control act. Yea, I'm such an old geezer I was working in LGS even then. Then there came a couple of times when local crime incidents paniced the local folks. The next big wave of newbie buyers, however, was in 1989 with the Bush ban. Then came the Clinton ban in 1993, created by Upchuck Schumer. But the big one was the 1994 Clinton Assault Weapons Ban, created by Dastardly Feinstein. (It's amazing these jerks are still in Congress!) In all of those cases, there were lots of folks who knew nothing about firearms, willing and eager to buy anything and everything on the shelves. For example, the Friday before the AWB in 1994, I sold 63 handguns that had nothing to do with the AWB! We usually didn't sell that many in week. It took about a month after that for folks to start coming back in to ask if we'd be interested in buying it back and it continued for several years. We'd even have family members come in to the store because they found this box in the closet with our label and grandpa or grandma was now too old to be allowed to have this "thing" or the heirs were trying to sell it. But even then we only got back about 15% - 20% of the things we sold. However, I smile every once in a while when l run across a gun NIB that has the label from that store where I was working and the date code of 1994. Apart from folks wanting us to buy stuff back, of all the folks to whom I sold firearms during these panic buying periods, and this would be hundreds if not thousands, I only saw a few -- maybe 30 -- come back into the store in the weeks and months after the panic. Of that number, there were about 5 who became active in the shooting sports or collecting. So, the moral seems to be that even after a panic such as we face now, not a lot has changed after similar panic periods in the past. But then again.... this one may be different; we've never had one political party openly and proudly committed to the idea of "never allow a crisis go to waste" while being dedicated to destroying the nation!
 
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Antigun mentality is not limited to one party or another. I have had liberal, LGBT, and die hard conservative students attend my classes. It didn't matter to me. If they had an interest in firearms, I would teach regardless of politics. I do tend to argue in favor of gun rights in terms such as no magazine restrictions, "assault weapon bans", etc.
 
I never said everyone or all. I simply said there are lots of newbies out there who know nothing and don't understand that responsible handling involves practice and knowledge. Somehow they think just having the gun is protection.

There is one guy around here who runs CPL classes and because he is so concerned that everyone gets to use their constitutional right he will run classes of 50 people at once and the people in the class only shoot about twenty rounds the entire day. I know someone who took the class, and I can tell you this person knows nothing about the gun and does not practice but totes the thing around. This person can't always hit the target board at six yards. This person is a public danger and so is the guy who passes people out of a class like that.

Again, I never said no one.

At least they got to shoot a gun. My CCWP class was a joke. 30 people crammed into a cold conference room at a Holiday Inn..paid $90 and listened to
-join NRA
-buy this shooters insurance
-look at this blue/red map

Then about 2 hours of 'info', disorganized. Got a book(whopee) and followed along filling in the blanks..it was 'essential', cuz ya got the certificate but my goodness, horrible.
 
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