How does the CZ 75 stack up in quality and reliability with Glock 17 or Beretta 92?

I own several Glocks and prefer them for carry.
If I am heading out the door, I have my G20 tucked in my wasteland.

I also have two CZ's. The first being a 75B, and a new Shadow 2. I have not owned either long enough to attest to reliability, but overall build quality is excellent. Yes the double action pull is heavy, but pull back the hammer and flip on the safety, and that is no longer a problem.
I did do some trigger work to the 75B that brough the DA pull into a more realistic rage, but it is still a long pull.

I do not own any Berettas, I did look at them and liked a lot of the design features, but the CZ's just felt better in my hands.

So for me, I still prefer the Glock for self defense, but enjoy shooting the CZ more. They both have their jobs and both do them well.
I will probably also get a Beretta some day and am sure it will also fall into its place in my collection. I doubt a person could go terribly wrong with any of the three.

I would choose to carry my Glock 19 and shoot my CZ P-01 at the range. But I could easily swap roles with these 2 pistols. Possibly the 2 most versatile pistols that I own.

The Shadow 2 is lightyears ahead in all areas except weight. It is heavy. It is all steel. Trigger is phenomenal.

JO JO said:

I feel my CZ 75 is superior to my G17 and G19 in every way except one , the Glock can be taken apart and repaired if needed way easier then a CZ , outside of the Glocks simplicity the CZ is a sweet handgun

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isn’t it ironic? The pistol least likely to need servicing is the one that is the easiest to service.

I haven't used CZ, but I was issued Glocks (19 and 17) and Beretta (M9) over a 27 year career as both active duty mil and as a contractor, and the Glock is infinitely more reliable than the M9. The M9 was the most frequently broken weapon in our inventory, and under a heavy round count, needed to be cleaned daily. I have a Glock 17 that I fire with filthy steel case Russian ammo, and it is lucky if it gets cleaned every 1,000 rounds.

CZ makes fine pistols (my opinion) and the ergonomics fit me quite well. YMMV

Look at this way. All three are used by military and police around the world.
The CZ 75 since 1975. Beretta 92 series for a long time. Glocks more recently. They all have pros and cons like everything.
Take your pick.

From my experiences I would rate Glock 17 above CZ 75 for reliability. My son and I both own CZ 75 SP01 and while they have both been very reliable they have not been 100 percent reliable like my Glock or SIG P226s have been which are like garbage disposals for any ammo ever tried. My son has had more than a few bobbles with his SP01 and he likes to blame it on the ammo but they we trade ammo and the ammo he was having a problem with ran great in my P226 or Glock 19, I have only had two bobbles with my SP01 but that is two more than I have had with my Glock 19 and SIG P226 which have both had thousands of rounds more ammo of a fairly large variety brands/bullet weights run through them. And yes I keep my pistols clean and well lubed. I don't have experience with the Berretta,

Otto said:

But it would be nice if I had as many wives as I did guns.

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I'm from Utah, but that many would be insane.

I don't like the 92's upside down safety. Glock triggers are too mushy. CZ is one of my favorites.

Koroner said:

I'm from Utah, but that many would be insane.

I don't like the 92's upside down safety. Glock triggers are too mushy. CZ is one of my favorites.

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You should check out the trigger I have on my G48. Solid wall and it breaks like a mediocre 1911 and the only spring I replaced was the plunger spring. Everything else is stock except the trigger shoe.

Here ya go. https://photos.app.goo.gl/xQwKs3GpSyHNR5pz7

As far as I am concerned, the big difference between the CZ-75, in most versions and the GLOCK or BERETTA, is the safety.
It is a simple cocked and locked safety like the 1911 pistols. Some love this feature. I consider it a hazard for most shooters, who do not have the experience of competitors or SWAT team members. As far as I am concerned, most shooters should have a pistol with a DECOCKER or a safer trigger system like the GLOCK, SPRINGFIELD ARMORY XD or one of the double action only handguns like the BERETTA D models.
AND YES, I KNOW YOU CAN GET THE CZ-75 IN A DECOCKER MODEL LIKE THE CZ-75BD or the newer, non-CZ-75 models, but a lot of CZ-75's are sold in the old, classic and in my opinion, unsafe type of safety. I have seen enough accidental discharges with even decocker and double action only models to want to make the situation worse.

Jim

The Model 92 is blued on every surface, and all in all is a very fine weapon. What really impresses me is the M9a1 variant; finest combat handgun of this era.
My Dad says 'the Beretta is like the only gun you'll ever need' and I cannot disagree.
However, I do not own one. Guess something about it's shooting performance doesn't appeal to me over any Glock, 1911 or CZ I've shot. I have my, gripes about the CZ-75 , but I'd pick it over the Beretta. But that opinion might change. But these are personal opinions.
Reliability of all three? They're all equal. All are very sturdy combat handguns, with the Glock being the lowest point on the 'fineness' scale. I'd say the Beretta strikes me as being better crafted than the CZ, it's the grandchild of the Walther P-38 and has been used for 40 years by our armed forces. The Glock is well, the Glock, the Colt 1851 of the Modern era. And the CZ was what made 9mm finally accepted by us Americans.
It's hard pressed to ask me which one is the best. Everyone here agrees the Glock is 3rd, but it's a different type (polymer frame, striker fired). Maybe just stick with our military's example and go with the 92.

TonyAngel said:

The pistol least likely to need servicing is the one that is the easiest to service.

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Part of the point. More complicated you make something, the more likely it'll have a failure.

I have six CZ's, four Berettas, and three Glocks.

I like them all; they're all accurate and reliable.

The CZ's fit my hands best, so I prefer them, but that's just me.

Of the three, whichever fits your hands well and that you shoot the best is the best one for you.

Very interesting thread. Don't have any experience with Beretta 92 and have only recently gotten a CZ 75B, which fits me perfectly. Glocks work, I have several. I don't understand the comments about CZs being rough inside. Maybe this used to be the case, but the inside of my new CZ 75B in matte stainless is like a Jewell just like the outside.

tbob38 said:

have only recently gotten a CZ 75B,

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I really want to get the CZ-75 D, the compact pistol. Would prefer it in .40 S&W/.357 Sig.

I only have one CZ75 ( a B, Omega variant so I’m not sure it counts). I’ve had enough trouble with it so far that I’m reluctant to try another CZ. Barring that, based on shooting and handling impressions alone, the CZ platform would be last on my list of those three guns. Beretta would be the top even though I dislike the slide mounted safety/decocker.

However, if I had to go to war or depend on one pistol forever it would be the Glock, even though it’s an ergonomic nightmare for me.

I know you didn’t ask but the SIG P226 is superior to all of these platforms in my opinion and that would be my first choice.

Here's a gun I did go to war with. No complaints about the M9; I'll still trust my life to one. Same for the CZ ...

It really depends on what you mean by “quality.” All are among the most capable service-type pistols. The CZ may tend to be slightly more accurate than the Glock, while the Glock may be slightly more tolerant of outright abuse (dropping in mud and the like... all will tolerate a lot of use).

army_eod said:

The Shadow 2 is lightyears ahead in all areas except weight. It is heavy. It is all steel. Trigger is phenomenal. View attachment 905337

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Absolutely. In fact I'm waiting on a custom leather holster for mine so I can carry it. With a loaded mag, it weighs exactly the same as a 6.5" barreled S&W N-frame!

Probably all neck and neck with my preference pushing me toward thinking the CZ and Berettas are nicer guns.

They all make good shooting guns though.

At this time I have owned a Glock 22 that I miss that was heavily modded with a performance trigger, night sights a grip plug, sleeve and a guide rod. It shot poorly for me when I first got it. It was me and a striker trigger, after miss it was easy to keep on target. I always found the way the synthetic lower would shift balance as the magazine emptied to be weird but manageable. Accessories were cheap. It was always solid. I do find I didn’t ever get as comfortable with my sights. I had to raise it, then adjust. I think it’s grip angle and or barrel to grip height.It was stolen.

Then I got a 92s even though I hated the 92 for a long time. I was a fan boy of 1911. The 92s model has smaller sights. It’s a full size gun for sure. The italian has a butter smooth trigger. aims so easily because when raised the sights are already aligned for me. My particular version is harder to find holsters and mags because of the base notch that’s missing on some 92fs. But I still love it.

I don’t have a real cz I have two clones by canik. The trigger is not as smooth. The mags are harder to find. But they are compacts and aim super well for me and fit my hand like no other ever including all the others above and the 1911. I can’t say for sure about real cz as I don’t have one.

But I can tell you they will all serve you well. But magazine cost holster availability and purpose play a factor. you should prolly run them all at a rental range and ask what you want to do with them. Hands down all three are worthy options. But the Glock will always be ugly. They have the aesthetics of a dog rear. But will live forever.

Well having owned all three I’ll give my personal opinion as well. Quality wise I’ll say a stock beretta has better quality features than a stock cz75 and glock 17, like fit/finish and overall design. But quality doesn’t always mean more reliable, especially in adverse conditions. For example, a Rolex is a higher quality watch than a g-shock, but which would you think would handle a tougher environment? My guess is the g-shock.

Reliability wise I’d have to give the edge to the glock 17. It’s looser tolerances and overall design just make it a more reliable weapon, especially if we are taking maintenance into account. I’m willing to bet if you had a dirty/dry glock 17, cz75, and beretta 92 the glock would perform better in that state in most cases. If the glock had more stoppages than the other 2 while being neglected I’d be shocked.

Durability should also be added to the equation in which I think the glock would win an endurance test between the 3 also. Less parts means less parts breakage in most cases and no one can deny the glock has less parts and is a simpler design.

Lastly I’d say accuracy (as in the shooters ability to shoot the gun accurately without extended training with that particular platform, not a guns inherent accuracy as that’s probably a wash) would have to be won by the cz75. I mean from the first moment I picked up cz’s I’ve been able to shoot them like I’ve been shooting them for years. Second would be beretta and third glock. When I took my wife and kids shooting for the first time they shot the cz more accurately which also confirms my logic here.

Now if we are talking custom or highly modified versions of these guns then it pretty much becomes a wash in my opinion with maybe the glock still having the edge in overall reliability because of the looser tolerances. If a SHTF situation ever truly occurred and all 3 guns where laid out on the table and I had to choose it would be the Glock 17. With that said I still favor cz’s and berettas over glocks, but I carry glocks more so go figure.