Doorbell video captures violent Illinois home invasion which left coronavirus masked suspect shot de

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I went into our local Bob Evan’s this morning to pick up breakfast for my wife and I; as soon as I went thru the side door, I was told I had to remove my mask.
I responded politely that I will not remove my mask - I am not taking that chance. I then gave my name, was handed our sack of take- out breakfast and returned to my truck - and that was that.
 
I don't understand the murder charge on the accomplice. They were both committing a felony. But I don't think he should be charged with murder.
 
I don't understand the murder charge on the accomplice. They were both committing a felony. But I don't think he should be charged with murder.
In at least several states I am aware of, if anything happens during the course of a crime (such as a criminal being killed), then the surviving criminals may be charged with all the crimes that were committed. I know that was true in Oklahoma and I've heard it referenced for other states but have never confirmed it for those.
 
In at least several states I am aware of, if anything happens during the course of a crime (such as a criminal being killed), then the surviving criminals may be charged with all the crimes that were committed. I know that was true in Oklahoma and I've heard it referenced for other states but have never confirmed it for those.
I understand that. But I personally feel it's excessive. Just have real penalties for crimes committed. Don't give slaps on the wrist.
 
I don't understand the murder charge on the accomplice. They were both committing a felony. But I don't think he should be charged with murder.
I don't like the chain of stressed logic much either but look at it this way:

An individual sets out on a course of events, deliberately, knowing them to be felonious.

In the course of these events, an individual's life is taken.

The weight of that life - even an accomplice - is then borne on the shoulders of the individual initiating or facilitating the felonious act.

It also takes the death of the perpetrator off the shoulders of the home-owner. Too many times we've seen this end up with at least a charge of manslaughter for the homeowner. Circumstances of this crime relative to that observation most caustically noted by this observer.:evil:

How a *get-away* driver can be charged with the killing of a security guard in a bank even if the driver stayed in the car the entire time and never touched a gun.

Todd.
 
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You better have a very good reason for being at my door. It is 500 ft off the road and through a fence and a locked gate. You come up with a mask on and that 500 ft walk may not be pleasant.
So.....

You routinely snipe unscheduled arrivals before they get to your house?

Must be hell working UPS, FedEx or FTD in your neighborhood!
 
''I don't understand the murder charge on the accomplice. They were both...''

BOTH plotted it together
BOTH forced entry into the residence
BOTH did further acts, once inside
BOTH left the residence, well, one under his own power and one under carry. The live perp DID NOT leave on his own accord, but had to be FORCED
There were lesser strength persons inside, female and children...

BOTH would have been perfectly happy to share evenly in the proceeds, so also share evenly in the punishment.

In any of these armed home invasion cases, could there be a more textbook case for charging the alive accomplice with anything, everything, pile it all on including accusing of speeding on the way to the crime?

NO PLEA BARGAIN, ULTIMATE PENALTY i.e. death penalty.

Now, there is something to possibly not understand...
 
From the cited news article in the OP:
"The Illinois homeowner gunned down one of the suspects and chased the other out of his house in Arlington Heights...."
Always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS... Go full Paul Harvey on these kinds of stories....
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...sion-video-bradley-finnan-larry-brodacz-video
...they forced their way into the home with the intent to rob the family.

But the homeowner fought back, chasing Finnan outside and punching him to the ground, as seen in the video.

The homeowner then returns inside the home, out of view of the camera, where police said he found Brodacz pointing a gun at his wife and two children, police said.

The homeowner retrieved the family gun from a safe and confronted Brodacz, police said. During a struggle, the homeowner fired a single shot into Brodacz’s abdomen. He fell to the ground and died
 
Unless there are drugs or drug money involved, I wouldn't think doing a home invasion in a poor neighborhood would make sense.

They can happen mainly because they are near to poor neighbours that happen to be criminals.

Someone gets their tax check and leaves boxes from a big screen TV, computer, etc in front of their house and they become a target
 
Reminds me of that statistic I heard long ago about most car accidents happen within 20 miles of home. Heck, 90% of my driving is within 20 miles of my house!


Which is why!!!!


Plus, you're always coming or going from home.
 
Several states and DC have laws against wearing masks in public, although they generally include intent. Canada passed theirs in 2013, and based on intent, the sentence can be up to 10 years according to Wiki.
Exactly right. Mask wearing is banned while participating in a “riot or other unlawful assembly.” or while intending to commit an “indictable offence” (more or less the Canadian version of a felony).
 
But I don't think he should be charged with murder.

Most states have felony murder laws. i personally believe that anyone who participates in a crime where someone is killed should be charged with murder. Those laws ensure that the accomplice gets a serious sentence. In many of these cases the accomplice is charged with second degree murder. Some cases are plead down to manslaughter.
 
Most states have felony murder laws. i personally believe that anyone who participates in a crime where someone is killed should be charged with murder. Those laws ensure that the accomplice gets a serious sentence. In many of these cases the accomplice is charged with second degree murder. Some cases are plead down to manslaughter.
That's my issue with the court system. Charge people with a lot to plea it down. I totally disagree with plea bargaining.
I can see if an innocent person died. The accomplice wasn't murdered. He was killed in self defense.
 
The accomplice wasn't murdered. He was killed in self defense.

Which proves that he was committing a serious crime of violence.

So was his accomplice , who therefore shares with the decedent the blame for the death and who should properly pay the price in the criminal justice system.

This incident will be covered on Attorney Andrew Blanca's blog pieces tomorrow or he next day.
 
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For all the non lawyers or cops

It is real simple people.
Accessory before the act will be charged same as the principle.

In other words if you were involved, you just caught the charge even if you were not the trigger puller
 
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