AR Rifle Style Fixed Stock for Carbine?

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So I know magpul offers a non adjustable skeletal carbine stock but I was wondering if any makers out there offer an M16 style rifle stock that would attatch to the carbine buffer in the same way as the fixed magpul. If not one or two of us should draw up plans for one and go 50/50 because I think they'd sell like malaria meds....

But seriously I have looked and can't find one, any of you guys know of any


Same means of attachment as the magpul on top, but that looks like the one on bottom? Does it exist? If not, why not? I would think a sizeable portion of people would be jazzed about a purist looking fixed.
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I think the reason they don't exist is that the original is still available for not a lot of $$. And a carbine extension attached model would probably cost more. I have thought of it too, so it's not just you wanting one, but the original style ones are cheap enough for that one lower that needs a fixed stock.
 
If you're going to use an A2 rifle stock like the one pictured, why not just use a rifle-length buffer tube? There's nothing sacred about a carbine buffer tube -- it's easily replaced.

If you insist on a carbine buffer tube, you have to stack up several spacers behind it to make up for the difference in length. And you'd need a longer, non-standard top buttplate screw. Not worth the effort when you can simply switch to a rifle buffer tube.

ETA: I forgot to add the obvious: a carbine buffer tube (for a collapsible stock) is not round. It has a spline for the sliding stock. So it won't fit into an A2 stock anyway.
 
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I like to use an Ace skeleton stock and rifle tube, spring, and buffer for my carbines.

It's simple and light. Length of pull without the rubber pad is perfect for my shorter self.

ETA: I have the Magpul fixed Carbine stock. I found it a little on the short side. So I drilled a hole in the carbine tube where I wanted it. It's not a bad stock, really
 
From what I've been able to figure, the A1 and A2 stocks (5/8" difference) will be stiffer than a Carbine stock with its buffer. Also, from what I can tell, a Carbine upper runs with a rifle buffer assembly.
 
They also make a shorty A2 stock... I don't remember if I have a rifle or carbine buffer tube under it, most likely a carbine.

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I actually like that shorty stock. Have to get one. You remember where they’re sold?

I’m about evenly split between fixed and collapsible stocks. Actually had that same exact fixed Magpul carbine stock on one of my AR’s for 5-6 years. Recently just swapped it out. Less because of my needs, more because of the needs of family members who shoot that gun.

It’s actually not a bad stock.
 
From what I've been able to figure, the A1 and A2 stocks (5/8" difference) will be stiffer than a Carbine stock with its buffer. Also, from what I can tell, a Carbine upper runs with a rifle buffer assembly.
Yes, any upper with proper (standard for barrel length) gas system will work with a rifle or carbine buffer system.

that being said you can get adjustable gas blocks and tuneable buffer systems if you want.
 
The stock in my pic above is an RRA part, it's called an 'entry stock.' It takes a carbine-length tube.
I'm going to check that out. I guess I didnt realize you could just use a rifle buffer and spring assy in a carbine...
 
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I've got an UTG version of the RRA that I forgot I had until I saw this thread. It is pretty short with the stock butt plate, and I discovered I'm not a nose to charging handle kind of guy.

I actually switched to the Magpul fixed stock like in the first pic which is an a1 stock length of pull.
 
you still have the issue of the shorter buffer, and spring. Use of a standard tube means a standard buffer, (reduced cost) and a standard spring (reduced wear). You also have the advantage of the full length stock reinforcement (increased strength). All in all, there's really no advantage to a carbine tube with a rifle length stock, except for finicky defective gas ports that don't run right with rifle tubes, but do with carbine (my 10 does this with but only with lighter loads), and the ability to switch between stock styles without removing the tube. That pretty much limits its real usefulness to rifles with a defective barrel, and owners who take them across state lines with different laws frequently enough to need a quick change stock. FWIW, I recently priced out a rifle tube, buffer and spring, and quality parts came to about 40$. A whole A2 kit can be around 55$ Just my thoughts.
 
My dad passed away a year ago October. He had a Bushmaster lower with an A1 stock on it. Just for ****s & giggles I put an old 16" carbine gas upper on it that I had laying around. Holy frijole!!! I LOVE the way it feels!!! It has me contemplating to replace all my adjustable carbine buttstocks with A1 buttstocks.
 
They also make a shorty A2 stock... I don't remember if I have a rifle or carbine buffer tube under it, most likely a carbine.

Mine has a 1" spacer on the rear, which makes my lightweight carbine build perfect for me...

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could you tell me what configuration that lower carbine is? Specifically the gas block and front sight get my attention.
 
My dad passed away a year ago October. He had a Bushmaster lower with an A1 stock on it. Just for ***** & giggles I put an old 16" carbine gas upper on it that I had laying around. Holy frijole!!! I LOVE the way it feels!!! It has me contemplating to replace all my adjustable carbine buttstocks with A1 buttstocks.

Not knocking the A1 stock... just noting that UTG's A2 stock/buffer assembly can be had for half the prices I've seen for an A1 stock without the buffer parts. Other than that, it's 5/8" difference, which may make more difference to you than it might make to somebody else. The goofy thing there... while the A2 and A1 use the same buffer assembly, I haven't seen any A1's sold with buffer assembly.
 
I like a fixed stock as well, but the one I went with is still the skelatonized style (Strike Industries Modular Fixed Stock). The solidness of a fixed stock but you can still tweak the LOP which is handy.

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could you tell me what configuration that lower carbine is? Specifically the gas block and front sight get my attention.

Generally, it's a standard LRB lower with a RRA mid-length upper and lightweight barrel. The gas block shipped was a low profile, so I swapped it out with a PRI railed gas block.

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As was mentioned, it has the RRA entry stock with a 1" butt extender, a GGG A2 sling mount receiver plate, and BCM medium GEN1 charging handle. Topped off with Troy steel sights...

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It tips the scales just over 6.5# unloaded; I'm sure I could whittle off a few ounces here or there, but it works for me...

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