SeeAll Open Sight, anyone use one?

I have an earlier version of their site. I like it alright and if you can buy one at a reasonable price it is not bad, I bought mine used for about 1/2 the new price so I'm not hurt on it. Not for precise work nor low light.

I need to work with mine more to see the pros/cons. Feel free to PM me if you have questions (mine is on a .22 pistol) and I'll go shoot it to address questions.

Good sale, for $120 I think it is worth a shot if I looked at the same one you're pondering.

Very cool! I wonder how precise they are.

It certainly looks like a great option for those wanting some of the benefits of a red dot or holographic style sight, but without batteries.

mcb said:

The lack of needed batteries is definitely another selling point for me. Several of my scopes can use batteries but will function without them The one AR I have with a red dot also has BUIS since it is useless without battery power.

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Though I still haven't bought the BFR I've been wanting for a year or two, I've never quite figured out what optic I'd put on it. You may have just solved that problem. Thanks!

From the video, it appears that you still have to align 3 things with your eyes (the little triangle, the top of the green tube/wall, and the target). And probably have to focus on the sight to get it to work. Since the big advantages of optics over iron sights are that you are only aligning 2 things (dot and target) and are focusing on the target, if I'm correct about how this thing works I'm not sure I see the benefit.

But I have ZERO first hand experience with this sight and would be happy to be corrected/educated as to its manner of use.

From what I have heard from folks who have used them, they are NOT fast like a red dot, as I was thinking something similar to you. That said every once in a while these pop up and I think to myself I should give them a try on something. (I was actually now thinking an airgun) but I haven't pulled the trigger as of yet.

Not for these old eyes. I'm going to stick with red and green dot sights on plinking guns. I don't need something that bounces around like that with my shaky hands. I'd never get a shot off.

WrongHanded said:

Very cool! I wonder how precise they are.

It certainly looks like a great option for those wanting some of the benefits of a red dot or holographic style sight, but without batteries.

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This is what I thought about the sight when I first discovered them. I don't think they have much use on a rifle, not when scopes and red dots work just fine, but on a pistol... that's where I see these having a very useful purpose, mostly as an alternative to the RMR dots that so many pistols are being made now with that feature option.

Now, I'm not saying the RMR red dots are bad, but they are expensive and I'm not too hip to a $400 optic that's used on a gun that's going to be used at a max distance of 25 yards. Also, they're taller than the SeeAll, which means their form factor for concealment isn't as good and we already know the SeeAll doesn't use batteries.

What I don't know is how the sights actually shoot when used on a pistol. I've asked some people on youtube about that and one person said they had a tough time with it, so IDK. I think this is something each individual would have to try and see if they can get a feel for it; just like most things gun related, what works for some doesn't work for others.

I'd love to try one of their dovetail mounted pistol sights, but they only make those for popular, higher end brands like Glock, Springfield, FN, HK, etc. I'm not interested in replacing the sights on my Glocks just yet for one of these, nor do I care to buy an FN or HK. I wish SeeAll would make more options for the dovetail mounted sights because I wouldn't have a problem buying a cheap, used pistol like a Ruger or even Hi Point as a platform to test the SeeAll on a handgun.

Interesting sight. Should work relatively well on close targets when mounted as a front sight on a rifle which is set up to fit shooter properly. If you can achieve the same spot weld on your rifle, you'll be amazed at the size of groups you can shoot using just your eye in place of a rear sight. The eye works as a rear aperture absent a rear sight.

I've actually experimented with setup of a target rifle by removing rear sight and "zeroing" POI by adjusting height/cant of adjustable buttplate, then shot a better group @ 100 yards without the rear sight than I would have expected.

Hope to see some range reports on this sight.

Regards,
hps

I have one on my AR and UZI. Don't have to worry about the battery.

I had the earlier version on my S&W Victory. It was OK. A bit slow to acquire the sight picture. Didn't really improve my accuracy much, if at all. Great concept, mediocre on execution. Went back to factory sights and haven't regretted it. I'll trade if you're interested, mcb.

I have no experience of these. From the vid though it looks like they would slow down sight acquisition and seem quite awkward.

I have the version like Spark above has on his Victory.

Had it out yesterday after this thread brought it back to my mind. Some observations, not fast, doesn't help my accuracy any. However, it is clear to my eyes which is a help as many sights aren't these days as I need reading glasses now.

The locking screws do not have any loc tite on them, put a little on them or they will shoot loose quick, also, they will leave a divet in the rail and scratch it some. That is on the older version, not sure about the newer ones.

I like it, but it is what it is.

mcb said:

How does it feel on your AR compared to iron sights or a red dot?

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Just like anything else, one has to get used to it. It's ok, I like it. I got one of the first ones that were made. They are a little different now and I imagine it will change as time goes on. I was looking for a non-battery sight that didn't cost an arm and a leg.

Ohen Cepel said:

I have the version like Spark above has on his Victory.

Had it out yesterday after this thread brought it back to my mind. Some observations, not fast, doesn't help my accuracy any. However, it is clear to my eyes which is a help as many sights aren't these days as I need reading glasses now.

The locking screws do not have any loc tite on them, put a little on them or they will shoot loose quick, also, they will leave a divet in the rail and scratch it some. That is on the older version, not sure about the newer ones.

I like it, but it is what it is.

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After watching the video, can see why it would make target acquisition slower. I figured the triangle was fixed, as any front sight would be, not floating. Guess it has to float to take paralax into account when mounted on a handgun. Assume it would settle down if mounted on a long gun on which proper cheek weld is repeatable.

As for set screws marking rail, a single lead shot placed in screw holes under the screw would compress to fit the rail and avoid damaging the rail....might even serve to prevent screws shooting loose, but Loctite certainly would do that.

Regards,
hps

Good advice on the lead shot, thanks!

I used custom made shims...from a beer can to reduce the marring.

Ohen Cepel said:

they will leave a divet in the rail and scratch it some.

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hps1 said:

As for set screws marking rail, a single lead shot placed in screw holes under the screw would compress to fit the rail and avoid damaging the rail..

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