An SKS without matching Serial nos.

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Well below is the SKS I ordered for $400.00 without a single solitary matching serial number, even though it is exceptionally clean as the receiver states it was manufactured in 1963, as well as the bolt carrier, and the stock states it was built in 1956, but obviously reconditioned recently. The trigger guard also was manufactured in 1956, and the magazine cover is in 1959. I've shot well over 500 rounds thru it since acquiring it about a month and a half ago, and found that the barrel appears brand new as it took some breaking in. (note it is a pinned in barrel Norinco) It does appear to be fairly accurate, as I've been able to hit a 10" gong 10X10 times with open sights at 100+ yards, with my 72 year old eyes. Any way, here is the beast along with my 6 stripper clips I was able to scavenge.

For some reason my pictures will not import! I'll try it again later.
 
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I have a norinco I picked up in the early '90s for $99. I ended up with tech sights as the eyes don't work so good any more. Glad you enjoy it. Don't worry about the non-matching numbers, nobody collects these anyway.
 
My only experience with Norinco was a 1911A1, which shoots every bit as good as my Springfield 1911A1, if not a little better. If it's ringing the gong at 100 yards, it's a keeper.
 
+1 for LNK on the techsights for these. No permanent alterations and makes it much easier on old eyes. You can get up to around 1.5-2 MOA accuracy at about 100 yrds with handloads on a good sks.
 
I bought one from a guy at the LA gun show in the mid 80s (back when that was one hell of an event) that does not have matching serial numbers. I not sure how many round I shot through it, then my son took it over and continued to shoot it with no issues.
It is not a collector but a fun rifle to shot and is ready for my granddaughter to take over.
 
I've shot well over 500 rounds thru it since acquiring it about a month and a half ago, and found that the barrel appears brand new as it took some breaking in. (note it is a pinned in barrel Norinco) It does appear to be fairly accurate, as I've been able to hit a 10" gong 10X10 times with open sights at 100+ yards, with my 72 year old eyes. Any way, here is the beast along with my 6 stripper clips I was able to scavenge.
Doesn't matter about parts serialization matching. Military rifles are designed to pretty much be mix masters with armory fitting required on very few parts. Apparently yours works just fine. :)

Ron
 
I've owned an AK-47, which I still own, it was manufactured brand new in Ishmash, (spelling) Russia. Just before they could no longer import the AK's to the US. I've got a bunch of 30 round mags, but trying to get sighted in, I had to use a 10 rounder in order to shoot from the bench. I ended up getting a Romeo-MSR red dot, after installing the Texas Weapons System dust cover. After that I never had a problem hitting the gong at 100 yards +.


The reason I got the SKS was strictly for a shooter, and getting on Gun Broker, I noted that the majority of decent looking SKS's were going for anywhere between $500.00 -$695.00 and up for serialized firearms, not to mention $50.00 for shipping to the continental US. This one was listed at $400.00, with no bids, but a nice clean barrel, no mention of matching serial numbers. So I jumped on it. The stripped clips I got from a buddy, who had an SKS, and he converted it to use 30 round mags, and had the stripper clips just laying around. Believe it or not I can operate the stripper clips nearly as fast as my buddy can shoot 30 rounds out of his modified SKS.
 
How did you date the receiver to 1963? Does it have an actual date stamped on it? Dating SKS's has typically been problematic.
 
Some where along here I was told it was a really simple task, any serial number starting with a 0 was a 1956, with a 1 a 1957, with a 2 a 1958 etc. I noted quite a few with corresponding serial numbers on Gun Broker that they claimed was manufactured in such a dated year. I reckon you can take it with a grain of salt, but it made my purchase that much more interesting.

BTW that is for Norinco SKS's, I'm not sure if it would apply to the other numerous countries that produced the SKS. The SKS was first produced in 1944, if I'm not mistaken, and used sparingly during WWII. So that configuration would be for the SKS which didn't come into existence until 1956.
 
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I bought mine as a gunsmith special some years ago that J&G Sales had ($250). Everything is matching except the trigger pack. For me though, it has real honest wear and tear on it, and trench art makes it come alive. :)
 
Looks as if you found a "keeper". Non matching isn't a big deal on SKS's and hitting that 10" gong at 100yds. ten times out of ten confirms that keeper status. My "beater" SKS is also a keeper and in response to several comments about SKS sights and aging eyes, the only thing done to that one was a front sight post which is a bit more visible to old timers. Pretty sure it was made by Tapco but my memory is hazy on that, as it was a few years ago. IMG_1718.JPG . Got a bunch of those 10 rd. stripper clips here also and they are indeed quite efficient with a little practice.
 
I placed a little dab of orange fluorescent paint on the front sight to help my old eyes a bit, and used the front sight tool to bring the groupings down. They had them way up for whatever they were shooting at prior to my getting the rifle.
 
Some where along here I was told it was a really simple task, any serial number starting with a 0 was a 1956, with a 1 a 1957, with a 2 a 1958 etc. I noted quite a few with corresponding serial numbers on Gun Broker that they claimed was manufactured in such a dated year. I reckon you can take it with a grain of salt, but it made my purchase that much more interesting.

BTW that is for Norinco SKS's, I'm not sure if it would apply to the other numerous countries that produced the SKS. The SKS was first produced in 1944, if I'm not mistaken, and used sparingly during WWII. So that configuration would be for the SKS which didn't come into existence until 1956.
My serial number is in the 24 million range, so not sure if that system would apply. I wouldn't think they'd have made that many by year three, 1960.
 
The chinese sks rifles are starting to flow again into the US. The rules prohibiting direct importation from China had a carve put allowing guns that have been in a neutral country for 20 years. There are bound to be a bunch of places that are reaching the 20 year mark. Classic and Aim have been slowly dripping their recent acquisitions from Albania out with decreasing prices over that past year as they sort through the better specimens and discount the ones with cracked or well worn stocks. Unless new import restrictions come about, I suspect we will be seeing more show up in the near future.
 
Looks like it's good to go in my book. Very clean. Non-matching numbers mean nothing if it shoots well.
 
Put a new dress on my old girl. As I sated earlier this one does not have matching serial numbers.
 

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Take care with the wood because the choa (you might know) is really soft, cuts/scrapes easily.
Very nice example you have.

illinoisburt: the few actual Chinese military Type 56 SKS I've handled all seemed to have harder wood (we know about the rough wear on the wood) than the 'choa' used on typical semi-commercial Chinese SKS imported many years ago into the US.

Those Type 56 reportedly came in, as you said, from Albania (this began roughly six years ago), but I might have read that some could have been stored in Slovenia?
 
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Take care with the wood because the choa (you might know) is really soft, cuts/scrapes easily.
Very nice example you have.

illinoisburt: the few actual Chinese military Type 56 SKS I've handled all seemed to have harder wood (we know about the rough wear on the wood) than the 'choa' used on typical semi-commercial Chinese SKS imported many years ago into the US.

Those Type 56 reportedly came in, as you said, from Albania (this began roughly six years ago), but I might have read that some could have been stored in Slovenia?
The Chinese factories have been cranking out SKS rifles for decades now. Like any manufactured item, they are built to some spec. I'm sure various large buyers, government or otherwise, have requested and received different configurations of wood and furniture based on their needs. I suspect most places where the rifles were in service for police and paramilitary units were poorer communist strongholds as the SKS was militarily obsolete very shortly after its inception. As these places modernize armaments and look to turn there old surplus into cash, the guns will probably show up more often here with places like Aim, Atlantic, Classic, and Century.
 
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Yes. Let's hope that more "third country" govts. and companies decide to export their SKS (no matter the origin) to the US.

The widespread economic damage due to measures resulting from the Chinese Virus might finally be enough to push them into selling what they can-despite any agreements within, or with, the EuroZone's bureaucrats and "arms control" groups.
 
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