.308 165gr Accubond vs medium-small hog

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I shot this eater-size pig at 130yds. He walked across the clearing when I was not ready, but then came back grazing and gave me another opportunity. I'm thinking I need to stand at the ready more even though it can be less comfortable waiting 4-6hrs at a time. If I'd been ready the whole time I would have got a coyote or two as well.

It was a side shot as he was starting to turn away from me to his right. I never found the bullet but it did a lot of damage was done to the left lung from shock and bone fragments and whatever remained of the bullet. I'd have thought the bonded bullet would have penetrated more but since the ribs are flat it did go through quite a bit of bone and he did drop on the spot so it's hard to complain.

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Kevinq6 said:
I shot this eater-size pig at 130yds. He walked across the clearing when I was not ready, but then came back grazing and gave me another opportunity. I'm thinking I need to stand at the ready more even though it can be less comfortable waiting 4-6hrs at a time. If I'd been ready the whole time I would have got a coyote or two as well.

It was a side shot as he was starting to turn away from me to his right. I never found the bullet but it did a lot of damage was done to the left lung from shock and bone fragments and whatever remained of the bullet. I'd have thought the bonded bullet would have penetrated more but since the ribs are flat it did go through quite a bit of bone and he did drop on the spot so it's hard to complain.

https://ibb.co/d28hGDk
https://ibb.co/DbJXG8g
https://ibb.co/FDBjTwz
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If you never found the bullet then I'm not sure how much more penetration you could have gotten? That's a nice combination though!
 
horsey300 said:
If you never found the bullet then I'm not sure how much more penetration you could have gotten? That's a nice combination though!
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I'm not sure if the bullet was deflected or if it just stopped inside the lung. I'm starting to think it was in the lung a few inches in or something. I always like to see what shape the bullet is in after going through a real animal, wish I'd poked around in this lung. Maybe next time!
 
Kevinq6 said:
I'm not sure if the bullet was deflected or if it just stopped inside the lung. I'm starting to think it was in the lung a few inches in or something. I always like to see what shape the bullet is in after going through a real animal, wish I'd poked around in this lung. Maybe next time!
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Wounding to the ribs suggests it's both entrance and exit?
 
horsey300 said:
Wounding to the ribs suggests it's both entrance and exit?
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Yeah probably that's what we thought inspecting him. That is strange though I know he was starting to face away but he was definitely mostly broadside when I squeezed the trigger. Maybe I took longer to squeeze the trigger than I thought. I'll go again next weekend maybe I can see how it does on a third pig :)
 
It looks like you have damage down by the 2nd/3rd left rib and then on the first rib, indicating that at least part of the bullet remained inside? I would highly doubt that your entrance was both and entry and exit AND ended up with a DRT hog. Not saying it is impossible, but a shallow wound, even if breaking a few midbody ribs, isn't apt to immediately incapacitate a hog, even if one lung is being damaged.

You may not want the expense, but I use a small Garrett Pro Pointer AT metal detector to find the bullet and fragments. It is amazingly easy to miss them when searching visually and by feel. Sometimes, they end up in quite unexpected places.
 
That metal detector is a good idea, I will pick one up. The thing is when I gutted him there wasn't too much bleeding but I was pretty tired so didn't look carefully. Next time I'll inspect the guts better, so fun to see the ultimate shape. I will agree the bullets end up in weird places, I shot another hog with an 180gr Accubond and could not find the bullet, then found it when I boiled the skull! Bullet had gone through the arm bone towards the head and somehow ended up flat against the upper skull... who knows how!
 
Glad you successfully bagged your target hog!

My experience with the .257 Nosler Accubond at 3100 fps mv in Federal Premium Vital Shock factory ammo has been stellar vs feral hog. Mine were neck shots with no recovered bullets but blew fifty cent piece divots of tissue out on exit and talk about effective anchoring!
 
As the accubond is a bonded bullet does anybody know what the retained weight is after shooting an animal? I've been thinking about loading accubond for one of my .308s. I shoot all hoofed game with, Norma Oryx 165grn when using the .308 and the recovered bullets all have 90%+ retained weight. I've never recovered a bonded bullet from a boar all past through. I shoot boar in the head when hunting from a tower and non of them run anywhere. The few I've shoulder shot dropped on the spot with very little meat damage. I've used the Norma Oryx to great affect on driven hunts as well.
 
Skoghund said:
As the accubond is a bonded bullet does anybody know what the retained weight is after shooting an animal? I've been thinking about loading accubond for one of my .308s. I shoot all hoofed game with, Norma Oryx 165grn when using the .308 and the recovered bullets all have 90%+ retained weight. I've never recovered a bonded bullet from a boar all past through. I shoot boar in the head when hunting from a tower and non of them run anywhere. The few I've shoulder shot dropped on the spot with very little meat damage. I've used the Norma Oryx to great affect on driven hunts as well.
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Nosler advertises a heavier retained but realistically they're not far off from the partitions 50-70% avg. The Swift would be one to check out to try to combine oryx performance with accubond ballistic coefficient.
 
horsey300 said:
Nosler advertises a heavier retained but realistically they're not far off from the partitions 50-70% avg. The Swift would be one to check out to try to combine oryx performance with accubond ballistic coefficient.
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The three Oryx that i recovered, all from moose, all have over 90% retained weight. Two are 30 cal and one is 7mm.
I asked a friend to get me some .308, once fired cases as he's a range officer at his shooting club. I asked for a couple of hundred and he turned up with a bag with at least two thousand in. All Norma once fired. As I've been prepping the cases my mind started wandering into developing a new round for the falling block. I saw the advert for Accubond and they look like an interesting choice. Our type of hunting is mostly sub 100 mtrs.
I see Midway Sverige have Swift bullets but many types are unavailable. I'll get a box of Accubond and see how they shoot. But for most of my hunting with the .308 I'll stick with the Oryx. I've shot a few Muntjac with the Oryx and the damage to the front end of that small deer made it uneatable. The Oryx is OTT for Mutjac:).
 
Skoghund said:
The three Oryx that i recovered, all from moose, all have over 90% retained weight. Two are 30 cal and one is 7mm.
I asked a friend to get me some .308, once fired cases as he's a range officer at his shooting club. I asked for a couple of hundred and he turned up with a bag with at least two thousand in. All Norma once fired. As I've been prepping the cases my mind started wandering into developing a new round for the falling block. I saw the advert for Accubond and they look like an interesting choice. Our type of hunting is mostly sub 100 mtrs.
I see Midway Sverige have Swift bullets but many types are unavailable. I'll get a box of Accubond and see how they shoot. But for most of my hunting with the .308 I'll stick with the Oryx. I've shot a few Muntjac with the Oryx and the damage to the front end of that small deer made it uneatable. The Oryx is OTT for Mutjac:).
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Please forgive me as I've yet to go myself but it's my understanding that muntjac hunting is a close range affair? If this is the case, then with the .308 in mind and the size of the quarry in mind, perhaps a 180 gr bullet of stout construction (monometals, bondeds) would be in order? The slower muzzle velocity and heavier construction should be less likely to destroy so much of the critter..... I had forgotten about the Hornady interbond! (Hornady could market just a lil better) the interbond would DEFINITELY be a tough bullet and I'd wager it'll do the trick! The other thoughts in my head are lite loading the oryx or a classic cup and core round nose to launch at 2200-2500 fps. It's been awhile since I compared prices, but here are those interbond bullets:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010478530?pid=177715
Eta, shame on me for forgetting the Fusion bullets! Those might be DANDY for you!
 
Kevinq6 said:
It was a side shot as he was starting to turn away from me to his right. I never found the bullet but it did a lot of damage was done to the left lung from shock and bone fragments and whatever remained of the bullet. I'd have thought the bonded bullet would have penetrated more but since the ribs are flat it did go through quite a bit of bone and he did drop on the spot so it's hard to complain
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HEY
It was a good shot, and the bullet got 'er dun. Thanks for the photographs! :D

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