I don't believe there are any Rugers running Ruger any longer. There may be still be some small percentage of stock (less than 30%) owned by the Ruger family, but when Bill Ruger Jr. retired some years ago, that was, as far as I know, the end of Rugers working at Ruger. At least as of 2019, there was nobody named Ruger amongst the Board of Directors or Corporate officers. I'm not claiming to have made a study of the topic, so I would be interested to know if anyone has any different information.
Why did Springfield Armory hi-jack the Springfield name?
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And Smith & Wesson, Remington (Factory tour 2:20) and Savage Arms (Sold by Vista Outdoor in 2019)^^ ..and Kel-Tec.
Don't forget Sig 1911s and many models are made in USA.
And now some Glocks are made in USA.
Even my wife's Taurus TCP 738 is made in USA (2:00 of video)
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Nope.
Ruger is almost 70% owned by mutual funds and other corporate investors.
https://money.cnn.com/quote/shareholders/shareholders.html?symb=RGR&subView=institutional
Sure shows you how content laws have been diluted if all an American manufacturer has to do is cut a rail groove and stamp made in USA on the receiver. You can look at a 1911 frame and see all the machining, stock removal, that has to be taken out of a billet. If IMBEL did all that except for cutting a frame rail groove, I would say they did 95% or more of the actual work on the frame.
Springfield Armory did sell M1 Garands at one time. Their serial numbers started at 7,000,000. As Slamfire said, they are not as good as the USGI Garands.
FYI, USGI Garand serial numbers ended in the low 6,000,000 range for the four USGI Garand manufacturers.
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No different than Polaris buying the Indian Motorcycle moniker, and riding on their name AND history. Business is all it is, you decide if you want to
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Not anymore
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This I did not know! This must have been long ago?
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Charter Arms. Nick owns it.
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https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/new-production-garands.8595/#post-114793
Actually they did. Some used parts kits from DCM on cast receivers from Australia. LithCo IIRC I had one that never got thru a full en-bloc without a jam of one kind or another.
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Why? The pursuit of the almighty dollar, of course.
Are you right? Yes you are.... and it has worked out very well for them.
When someone hijacks a name used for a government facility that has a certain "brand" appeal, I don't have a problem with them using that name.... however, I do have a problem with them being granted a copyright for that name. It should, IMHO, be public domain.
Someone mentioned Browning earlier in this thread. My understanding is the Browning company started when John M. Browning licensed his semi-auto shotgun design to FN after Winchester said no. Part of the deal was for a number of those shotguns to be imported to the US and sold under the Browning name. Browning has always be a reseller of sorts, but at least it started as selling John Browning's designs.
Darn baby Swiss cheese made in Wisconsin! Cheddar - not from England!
BTW - the USN, after the LCS flop, is buying an Italian designed frigate (constructed here on license, I think). The LCS is being rearmed with a Norwegian missile!
My point is that I'm not excited by the issue. Most of my meds that keep me going are from China. That worries me, some.
BTW - the USN, after the LCS flop, is buying an Italian designed frigate (constructed here on license, I think). The LCS is being rearmed with a Norwegian missile!
My point is that I'm not excited by the issue. Most of my meds that keep me going are from China. That worries me, some.
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FN opened it's Columbia SC plant in 1981, well before production of M16 was contemplated.
The reason Colt had sole source privilege for so long was due to the data breech by the US Govt of the M16/M4 TDP. Colt's was awarded sole source privilege through 2009.
Since 2009 FN has won a few of the contracts.
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Same here. Mine was marked Imbel. Damn good gun too.
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Correct.
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I also have one of those early Springfield Armory M1911A1s from the late '80s. At the time I believe the parts to make the gun were imported from Brazil but assembled here in the U.S. Early on they also were selling the entire parts kit if you wanted to build the gun yourself. Later versions would have "Made In Brazil" stamped on the frame.
I also have one of those early Springfield Armory M1911A1s from the late '80s. At the time I believe the parts to make the gun were imported from Brazil but assembled here in the U.S. Early on they also were selling the entire parts kit if you wanted to build the gun yourself. Later versions would have "Made In Brazil" stamped on the frame.
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Actually France was building P38s shortly after the war was over from machinery and parts they had appropriated from factories that were previously located in Germany. Later Manurhin would supply some 2500 P1 pistols to the West Berlin Police as the Germans were forbidden by the terms of their surrender to the Allies to use German made weapons. Manurhin also marketed P1s, PPs and PPKs under their own name as well as selling all the necessary parts for Walther to assemble and do the final fitting of the guns themselves.
One of the Manurhin P1s made for the West Berlin Police:
Actually France was building P38s shortly after the war was over from machinery and parts they had appropriated from factories that were previously located in Germany. Later Manurhin would supply some 2500 P1 pistols to the West Berlin Police as the Germans were forbidden by the terms of their surrender to the Allies to use German made weapons. Manurhin also marketed P1s, PPs and PPKs under their own name as well as selling all the necessary parts for Walther to assemble and do the final fitting of the guns themselves.
One of the Manurhin P1s made for the West Berlin Police:
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200 years from now you will just download an app on your gen 2xx iPhone to vaporize somebody.
Its interesting to think about though, will guns be what they are today, will they fire lead projectiles?
Old Dog
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No. And no disrespect intended, but who cares? Brand names have been recycled in this country for only a couple hundred years. Just ... simply ... not ... an ... issue.
And I am a fan of the current company. Not one of the most expensive 1911s I've ever owned, but one of the best ...
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It seemed like right around the time they announced the US plant they started skimping on finish, maybe other things too, not sure. I knew people who thought it was only US made glocks but I have an Austrian glock with the very dull, thin slide finish that just about wipes off with your finger.
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Glock slides had always been treated with Tenifer – until 2011. This is a metal treatment not a finish. The Tenifer treatment is not allowed in the US, thanks to the EPA. Glock went to a Melonite treatment. The finish applied to both treatments are just for looks, but the finish on the Tenifer treatment healed up better.
The Gen5 Glocks have a different finish.
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Exit 19 on I-80 is Geneseo. Near the Iowa boarder. A long way from "crook" county. S.A is in Geneseo, Rock River is about 15 miles away in Colona, Ill.
Gov. Pritzker is not gun friendly.
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How can you stand those forward cocking serrations on the slide?
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