Mexican Government Demanding Complete Answers About 'Fast and Furious' Gun Smuggling

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Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador seems to be taking corruption within the government more serious than any president in recent memory. His recent action along Mexico's north and southern borders to stem illegal immigration is also having a positive effect.



Mexican Government Demanding Complete Answers About 'Fast and Furious' Gun Smuggling

By Rick Moran May 12, 2020 12:35 PM EST

The arrest last December of a former Mexican security minister in the U.S. on drug charges has compelled the current Mexican government to send a note to the U.S. government demanding to know of Mexican government involvement in the failed ATF sting ‘Fast and Furious.”

Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard quoted former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder as saying that Mexican authorities knew about the scheme and Ebrard wants to know how far back some Mexican official corruption goes.

The ATF operation began in 2009 under the Obama administration. The agency attempted to track almost 2,000 guns bought illegally in the U.S. and sold to Mexican cartels. But the operation was badly botched and only a fraction of the guns were ever recovered.

One of the illegal guns was used to murder a U.S. border patrol agent, Brian Terry.

The foreign minister suggested that if any Mexican officials knew of the ATF operation, they were in violation of Mexican law.

Fox News:

Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador had said last week his government would send a diplomatic note to Washington for information on the operation, as his current regime digs for more information on the cooperation between the U.S. and Mexico, as well as possible corruption under previous administrations.

“How could this be? A government that invades in this way, that flagrantly violates sovereignty, international laws,” Lopez Obrador said at a news conference, according to Reuters.

Left-wing rhetoric aside, AMLO, as he is known, might have asked why U.S. officials concocted Fast and Furious in the first place. Cartel violence was spilling over into the United States and the Mexican government was powerless to stop it. Corrupt officials were certainly a cause of the freedom given the cartels to murder anyone they wished, but ultimately, the Mexican government was ineptly led.

AMLO is looking to pin the increasing violence on previous administrations and is searching for evidence of corrupt ties with the cartels in former officials.

Lopez Obrador first talked of the scheme last Monday when discussing Genaro Garcia Luna, the former Mexican security minister from 2006-2012, who was arrested in the U.S. last December on drug trafficking offenses, Reuters reported.

The Mexican president claimed the arrest of the Luna — who had also led an attack on drug gangs in the country — proved that corruption was prevalent in past Mexican governments.

Fast and Furious was a relatively minor scandal in the Obama administration, but it gave us a foretaste of how the White House and the administration would handle future blow-ups: Deny, deny, lie and lie. They stonewalled the GOP Congress for years when documents were requested. Witnesses refused to testify. When Obama left office in 2016 and the House Oversight Committee was still trying to get documents from the Justice Department.

Two thousand guns in the hands of violent, psychopathic killers. What Einstein thought that up?

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Only because his media shills did a damn good job of hiding the fasts from the American public!

This was a major scandal IMHO, trying to blame American gun owners for Mexican Cartel violence asa means to demand more "gun control".

Knowing that facilitating the transfer of firearms to violent drug cartels would result in those cartels visiting violence on innocent people all the time... The end and the means are each a major scandal in their own right.
 
From what I followed, in the previous attempt of 'Gun Walking" (Operation Wide Receiver ~2007 ), the Mexican LE and the US ATF Mexico City Office were informed and the gun dealer involved had a confoential informant contract with ATF. Operation Wide Receiver was shut down becaue allowing guns to cross the border produced no useful results.

Under Operation Fast and Furious (~2010) Mexican LE and the US ATF Mexico City Office were kept in the dark and the gun dealers involved had no paperwork showing they were doing what the Arizona ATF was telling them to do. Operation Fast and Furous was a stupider repeat of Operation Wide Receiver which was shut down for being a bad idea.

The DoJ OIG Report on OFF should still be downloadable, along with the House Majority (Repub) and Minority (Democ) reports.
 
Operation Wide Receiver was shut down because allowing guns to cross the border produced no useful results.

That operation also at least ATTEMPTED to track the firearms by placing GPS transmitters in the buttstocks of some of the rifles. This was a dumb idea as the batteries didn't last long, signals could be masked, and also the smugglers were wise to the effort. They would drive around with the rifles in their vehicles on this side of the border for a few days (leaving GPS trails for the Feds as sort of an middle finger salute) and then drive across the border with the batteries removed or GPS otherwise disabled.

The morons running F&F knew all of that, so didn't attempt to track the guns moving across the border. What they were hoping for is Mexican authorities recovering those guns at crime scenes down there and then asking the US for purchasing info. The idea was to use the US outcry of the bloodshed numbers in Mexico as a reason to enact anti-gun legislation here. So ultimately, the people in the US running the operation were actually HOPING for large numbers of Mexican citizens to be killed with the weapons that the US provided. That was the only way their scheme would provide results.
 
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