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That is a nice Redhawk by the way, drobs.
Looking to get a new gun.
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The rifling turns a shotshell pattern donut shaped, w/ a hole in the middle of the pattern. The massive jump through the cylinder to the forcing cone cuts down on your velocity, both for .45 Colt, and even more noticeably w/ .45 Automatic.
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Honestly I place my trust in the testing of others and any evidence I can procure myself. Now from what testing I've seen they appear to have fixed the "donut issue" but in all honestly when you have a hand held shotgun load your gonna want to use that at the closest range possible which makes the "donut issue" a moot point in my opinion. However not getting the full use of your gunpowder from the bullet this gun was designed to use is a problem. I'll look more into the Taurus company but honestly I'm still not going to take it off the table until I can see for myself just what other issues it may have.
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That things ridiculous, love it. I call that my "fishing gun" because that's what I told my wife I needed it for- self defense while fishing. It kind of evolved into. "If I don't hook a fish I can shoot at them with it".
Mine has digested 3,000-3,500 full power / near full power 454s so far and a few hundred 45 colt loads - nothing has broken or worn out and locks up the same as when it was new. yeah, I've carried it outside of the woods , it's a little excessive for pretty much everything in the Midwest - town or trail.
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Super redhawk toklat.
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I have owned about a dozen Taurus revolvers.
One had problems.
The rest were reliable. Something like four of them had stiff triggers, about four were okay, and about four were excellent.
Taurus has made their 357 Model 66 and derivatives for a long time and all three of mine have been reliable with good to excellent triggers. The Old Model 66 I have has an internal safety like a S&W instead of a transfer bar. It has a trigger as good as all but my very best S&W revolvers.
My S&W 625 is my favorite 45acp revolver. You can use moon clips with it, but you don't have to.
I like my Blackhawk 45 "convertible" a lot, and shoot 45acp out of it much more often than 45 colt.
There are still police turn-in S&W Model 10's out there for about $300. That's roughly what I paid for my 2" LE turn-in. Its trigger and accuracy are outstanding. Most of the LE turn-in handguns I've purchased were carried a lot and rarely fired.
One had problems.
The rest were reliable. Something like four of them had stiff triggers, about four were okay, and about four were excellent.
Taurus has made their 357 Model 66 and derivatives for a long time and all three of mine have been reliable with good to excellent triggers. The Old Model 66 I have has an internal safety like a S&W instead of a transfer bar. It has a trigger as good as all but my very best S&W revolvers.
My S&W 625 is my favorite 45acp revolver. You can use moon clips with it, but you don't have to.
I like my Blackhawk 45 "convertible" a lot, and shoot 45acp out of it much more often than 45 colt.
There are still police turn-in S&W Model 10's out there for about $300. That's roughly what I paid for my 2" LE turn-in. Its trigger and accuracy are outstanding. Most of the LE turn-in handguns I've purchased were carried a lot and rarely fired.
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Well I've now got two pistols to consider and just need to find them at affordable prices. Wish me luck because this will be my last post for some time now. Have to go help out the family with some stuff.
The Ruger Toklat is about as different from a Colt Python as a gun can be and still be a conventional double-action revolver.
The "donut issue" results from the bore being rifled and there is no fix for it. If the bore is rifled, the shot pattern will spread very rapidly and show a donut pattern on the target.
I don't think most handgun self-defense trainers/experts advocate getting as close to a deadly threat as possible.
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It was enjoying the compliment, I wasn't going to say anything- I did get a good laugh thinking about a Python owner seeing that comment .
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I'm not an expert on firearms but even I could tell that the gun in the picture wasn't a colt python. It looks like one to me.The Ruger Toklat is about as different from a Colt Python as a gun can be and still be a conventional double-action revolver.
To be fare in the testing I saw of the revolver the tester was several meters away and was still able to have a reasonable pellet spread but it didn't look like a donut. Now i did read that they somewhat fixed that issue but that source could be wrong and so can i.
Yes most people myself included would run away but I'm thinking of worst case scenario here. I'd like to have as many advantageous ways of effectively hitting my target in a high stress situation as possible. A handheld shotgun built into a revolver platform is perfect for that.
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So far I've found a Raging Bull for 700 which is great because if I can sell my extra Single Action for the same price that i bought it for then I'll only need 30 more bucks! Now i just need to find a reasonably priced Ruger Redhawk.
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unless this is a really rare collectible the odds of you getting full price are laughable... like a car... drive it off the lot n you do loose money and more importantly you should expect too...
How do you define "good" in using a handgun for self defense?
I bought a Charter Arms Bulldog XL in Colt 45 a few months back:
https://charterfirearms.com/collections/bulldog/products/model-74530
It's a great shooter meaning accurate + fun to shoot! I reload since store bought ammo would put me in the poor house! I shoot either 250 grain RNFP or 255 grain SWC's and would be happy to share my loads.
https://charterfirearms.com/collections/bulldog/products/model-74530
It's a great shooter meaning accurate + fun to shoot! I reload since store bought ammo would put me in the poor house! I shoot either 250 grain RNFP or 255 grain SWC's and would be happy to share my loads.
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I personally have great luck with both Taurus and Charter offerings. The Charter Bulldog XL mentioned above might fit your needs.
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For me "good" is when 90% of my shots hit their target. Anything other than that go me is a no go.
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I want to try a charter. The surface finish looks a bit off putting but I understand making a gun to a price point - that often excludes fine detail. But I've heard great things about them.
You are responsible for every round fired. 90% is not good enough.
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I should have said 98% or 99%. Out of the 32 shots I placed down range when I was last there only 2 missed and those were mm above the shoulders. Either way I can definitely agree that nothing less than 100% accuracy will do.
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Even top level competition shooters miss on occasion, especially in practical/combat style courses. 100% perfection is not a reasonable standard to expect from any human in a high-stress situation.
This is why one of the four rules is to be aware of your target and what is beyond it.
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