Guns hidden throughout the home
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That does seem to be the case.
SwampWolf
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Who keeps all of their guns (unless you only own a couple) in a boat? What kind of boat was it? A gunboat?
P5 Guy
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Someone on here lives in a HOUSEBOAT?
HPJeep
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Dad hides guns all over the house. They're in the sofas, coffee table, kitchen, garage, etc. One he passes I'm sure I'll even find them duct taped to the bottom of the toilet tank lids like in the mafia movies. He's a bit paranoid for some reason.
SwampWolf
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I do keep loaded guns in hidden places around the house (no kids are in the home). Though my wife is currently acquainted with their whereabouts, she knows that I made a list of where they're located (along with the caveat: "Always consider every gun I own, along with every gun you ever encounter, to be loaded") in the family safe in the likely event that I depart this world before she does.
mokin
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Books are probably pretty far down on the list of "valuables".
Insignificant bill
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Lol
cslinger
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I don’t have a problem with guns accessible across the house but I personally believe they should all be locked down in some way.
Not hidden in a book or freezer etc. but in various quick access safes. Ok a quick access safe in the freezer or toilet is fine.
point is I personally believe guns should be secured even in a basic manner.
Not hidden in a book or freezer etc. but in various quick access safes. Ok a quick access safe in the freezer or toilet is fine.
point is I personally believe guns should be secured even in a basic manner.
Twiki357
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I live in a location where an intruder is a very remote possibility. However, I live alone and since I have limited mobility, I have a firearm within about 5 feet no matter where I am in the house and garage, except the bathroom. The only down side is the PITA in collecting and locking them up on days when the house cleaning crew is due.
Sav .250
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No.
JFrank
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If your gun is locked up can you retrieve it while getting your door kicked in?
JFrank
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Book shelves probably get tipped over during ransack leaving your guns in the center of a pile on the floor.
Just my opinion of course
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cslinger
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I actually know for a fact how long it takes to kick in a door and murder two people and a dog from a previous life and totally understand how QUICKLY things can happen. That said it takes me about 2-8 seconds to retrieve a firearm in my house which is very likely enough time.
Generally speaking in fairly well constructed homes with half decent doors folks have enough time to call 911 and talk to a dispatcher which is plenty of time to retrieve a weapon from a quick access safe.
caveat 1 - the guns are locked in some form of quick access safe, are loaded and ready to go and you have done some practice. No keys, no unloaded, no ammo in the other part of the house. Hot gun, quick access.
caveat 2 - I was not a murderer or home invader with a penchant for statistics in my previous life. It comes from working a major metro dispatch department.
Our local LEOs say otherwise.
cslinger
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Like everybody we all have our own experience and knowledge to judge from. I am only going from what I have seen, experienced or have knowledge of.
I am also of the opinion that unless you pretty much live your life at condition yellow/orange 24/7 and have a hot firearm basically on your person or frankly damn near your hand if you have a number of assailants break down your door so lightning fast to make your draw time faster then my reach over and hit a code in 2 seconds then frankly we are both screwed.
The realities of life are there are occasions to ratchet up your awareness or threat level and react accordingly (threats/ex’s who threaten/legal issues etc.). That said for the VAST majority of gun owners the biggest threat is when your daughter’s dumba{%{> boyfriend finds a loaded gun and shoots himself or your idiot drunk friend does similar when you are having a party.
Yes I get there are those who have no kids, never have parties, don’t drink and only ever have super responsible folks or other gun folks in their home. I however, submit they are a rarity.
I would NEVER tell another adult how to live their life and if unsecured firearms work for you and or meet your threat needs go for it. In my world having a secured arm, close by my normal locations, meets my needs and threat analysis more so then an unsecured or carried 24/7 arm.
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Two different subjects.
I suggest that I can draw more quickly than anyone can "reach over and hit a code" and then access and present a firearm.
Suppose that something should happen when you are not in "one of your normal locations"?
I carry at home and elsewhere. The firearm is instantly accessible from wherever I happen to be; it is always secure, and I do not have to put it on and take it off during the day.
cslinger
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Fair enough and like I said I am not hear to preach to you or am I saying you sir are an idjit as I certainly don’t feel that way. Again it’s about your personal comfort level.
I would argue that based on my setup I am almost never not very close to an arm. 2 actually.....
. Sorry I couldn’t resist but seriously I am never more then a few steps away. Like I said to each their own and to be honest there are times I have a gun out and at hand, but my norm is secured in several locations.Some of this discussion is very much like capacity arguments or caliber arguments. Is somebody wrong for using a 5 shot revolver or a given caliber? We might personally find it inadequate for our needs but that doesn’t necessarily make us right for them.
As has been said “you pays your monies and you takes your chances.”
cslinger
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suppose I am in the shower, suppose I am medicated and out like a light, suppose the local Jamaican drug gang mistakes my house for a target, suppose. I mean I can run down a rabbit hole with this. I will say I have had a couple instances where I had to have a firearm at hand and I always either thought I didn’t have enough ammo or I didn’t have enough caliber mostly because short of a belt fed it’s a scary proposition and it’s easy to ramp up mentally (for me personally) to maybe a few claymores would be just right.
NOTE THIS IS BEING FACETIOUS I DON’T ADVOCATE EXPLOSIVES OR BOOBY TRAPS. I am just saying that finding that happy personal median is ...... well personal.
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cslinger
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Yes they can an I do practice dry fire/ laser getting to and getting rounds off in various places/avenues of my household. I am not saying my methods are as fast as having an arm physically on me 24/7 they are not. I am saying I find them adequate for my perceived needs. If I’m wrong.......chisel it on my stone.
And once again nothing I am saying should be construed as “YOU ARE WRONG!!!” You are not. Your strategy is just not for me nor is mine for you. No harm no foul either way. We are still vastly more prepared then most everybody and we are still just as likely to have Mr. Murphy intervene and take us out no matter what.
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I was speaking more of a form of FoF, with participants coming in unexpectedly with openings unlocked.
What is the benefit of taking the risk?
It's a simple matter of likelihood.
The likelihood that someone's domicile will be breached while they are at home is less than remote.
But should it happen, the likelihood that one will be within instant reach of a stashed firearm at the time, every time, will depend on the home layout and where the firearms are stashed.
My home layout does not begin to lend itself to that strategy.
JR24
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Concur, in fact I have done some timing with my bedside quick action safe and can't get the gun into action inside of 5 seconds, even when ready for it. I'd go with laying it on the nightstand but with young kids in the house that's a non-starter.
My typical draw, even from seated, concealed and at 15 yards (such as from my armchair to my front door), is less than 1.7.
At least there's the security system and two dogs to help maybe get me a few extra seconds.
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