Dont Get Involved In Petty Civil Disputes

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This should be common knowledge but I encountered it today first hand.

After leaving a couple of LGS's this afternoon the wife and I went through a local fast food joint. When we pulled up to the window to pay there was a lot of complaining about a customer in the drive through. I give the cashier my card and am receiving our food when a employee comes over and sticks his head out the window yelling at the car behind us. Apparently there was some heated exchange between the car behind us and the staff, to the point that the staff wanted to call LEO.

At this point I'm getting my card back and receiving our food all the while watching the occupants of the car behind us. There were three adult males, one was the driver and two in the back seat, and a female in the front passenger seat. They were certainly "unhappy".

So now I've gotten my card back and we've received our food. Somewhat surprising to me the employee that had poked his head out the window to yell at the car behind us then suggested we stay put and block the car behind us in. The employees were hell bent on getting LE involved and were wanting to get the cars license plate.

I said no thanks and drove off. And of course the car behind me followed right after not stopping at the drive through window.

This is a simple enough situation where one has no business getting involved. Obvious yes? Yet there are those out there that would take part in something as simple as this situation without thought of the entire situation.


Just a real world scenario I thought I'd share even though it seems obvious what one should do in such.
 
Excellent advice and example. If one carries for safety and protection, one need keep in mind that not putting oneself unnecessarily in a risky situation is part and parcel of that process. The employees had the vehicle, plate and occupants on video. Any matter that required LEO involvement could be followed up on by LEO with that information.
 
Sounds like somebody in the establishment knew the people in the car in question.
After all, a car loaded with people, this should be a win-win for a fast food joint, no?
Sell a lot of food, make a lot of money, just one car.

OTOH, generally, I opt for the "don't get involved" ...
 
Good Ol' Boy said:
This should be common knowledge but I encountered it today first hand.

After leaving a couple of LGS's this afternoon the wife and I went through a local fast food joint. When we pulled up to the window to pay there was a lot of complaining about a customer in the drive through. I give the cashier my card and am receiving our food when a employee comes over and sticks his head out the window yelling at the car behind us. Apparently there was some heated exchange between the car behind us and the staff, to the point that the staff wanted to call LEO.

At this point I'm getting my card back and receiving our food all the while watching the occupants of the car behind us. There were three adult males, one was the driver and two in the back seat, and a female in the front passenger seat. They were certainly "unhappy".

So now I've gotten my card back and we've received our food. Somewhat surprising to me the employee that had poked his head out the window to yell at the car behind us then suggested we stay put and block the car behind us in. The employees were hell bent on getting LE involved and were wanting to get the cars license plate.

I said no thanks and drove off. And of course the car behind me followed right after not stopping at the drive through window.

This is a simple enough situation where one has no business getting involved. Obvious yes? Yet there are those out there that would take part in something as simple as this situation without thought of the entire situation.


Just a real world scenario I thought I'd share even though it seems obvious what one should do in such.
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For too many reasons ,I agree with your WISE choice.

As a retired LEO,it "might" have been a thing to do [ help that is ] back when I was a newly retired cop = that would be a bad idea.

And since anyone with half a brain cell should KNOW AND REMEMBER at all times = you are the sole one responsible for YOUR actions.

And as I am armed 24/7,that would or COULD make it a deadly force issue at some point.

WHY would I allow myself to get so involved ?.

The very most I 'might' have done was take a position of OBSERVATION,and video the incident ------- "the very most".
 
It's a good idea to remember that if you're not a LEO you have no authority others will recognize. Call the police, if necessary and let them handle it or in this situation just leave, as the OP wisely did.
 
My local Harbor Freight is in a crime infested part of a metro city about half hour from home. HF is in a strip mall with a variety of other stores. Driving through the parking lot to get to the front of HF, I saw groups of young men outside a clothing outlet store. Even with the windows of the car up I could hear them yelling at each other, not my problem, keep carrying on. Turns out a group of young men got violent over some shoes and started shooting at each other. Rounds exchanged and no one was hit thankfully, just some property damage. How easy it would have been for me to stop, try to calm the situation and get caught in a gun fight. No thanks, I played "hero" long enough.
 
As Snagglepuss was wont to say on Yogi Bear, "Exit stage right" was the right move.

Just for hypothetical drama, what if a cop had come up and called on you to roadblock the louts until he could apprehend them?
 
Also like to point out that the car just left. They weren't interested in confrontation.. the fast food kids were looking for trouble if ya ask me.. which of course you didn't..
 
Good Ol' Boy said:
the employee that had poked his head out the window to yell at the car behind us then suggested we stay put and block the car behind us in. The employees were hell bent on getting LE involved and were wanting to get the cars license plate.
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MedWheeler said:
I still never used one, always walking inside and ordering food to take out.
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For years I have observed that unless the lane is empty so I can be served immediately, it is always faster to park, go in to order and pick up, and return to the car, than to wait in the car line for the window. Drive though has always been about convenience, not a time saver. For instance, if you have young kids in the car, better to wait in the car than leave them without supervision, or even drag them into the shop.
 
MedWheeler said:
Exactly one of the reasons I hate drive-through lines, and avoid them whenever I possibly can. I don't like being trapped, especially in my vehicle. With the restaurant dining rooms shut down, I still never used one, always walking inside and ordering food to take out.
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How do you get trapped? You can only trap yourself while in a line. Just leave some room in front of you. Simple.
 
things rings my "Time To Go" bell for sure. sounds like the problem was the car behind you maybe played a joke by ordering and then leaving, and had done that before. this would be my first guess, based on the scenario, the workers were upset because they had done it before. the owner of the establishment likely has cameras and can decide how to handle it - not your concern at all other than to exit stage right.
 
If your armed the best thing to have done was get out of the car, draw your weapon and threaten the driver of the other car with it. The owner of the fast food place will certainly thank you as will the dozen of so Police that respond. Institutional food is really not that bad. You'll be eating a lot of it.
 
There are some drive thru lanes that parallel an adjacent building or have landscaping/ curbs that once you pass the ordering screen, you're in it til you either get your food and exit, or at least all the vehicles ahead of you have. I'm not a huge fan of those type because short of ramming other cars, there's nowhere to go without exiting your vehicle.
 
Yes, there's that, and the fact that the lenght of the lines must be kept short enough to prevent conjestion.
 
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