Just curious how many dual EDC?

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
Jun 29, 2019
Messages
700
Obviously only in areas that allow it...

Just curious how many of you dual EDC?

If so, how/where do you carry both? Always both concealed, one open and one concealed or both open? (where allowed of course). Also where? Belt, appendix, ankle, pocket, shoulder, etc?

Me? Hiking on fair traveled trails.... 45 shoulder mount on backpack strap, with .410 derringer on my belt. Hiking in the back country, 454 on chest, 92fs on belt drop leg mount, and 410 Derringer on my belt. Depending on the threat, depends on which gun I will go for first. Obviously at least one gun is open carry depending on weather. In some cases all are being openly carried. Really not an issue in the back country that I am found. Along with carrying my LTC, I also keep current hunting licenses just to support the state, and to CYA.

In town EDC, p365 on belt, and either 410 derringer on belt in cross carry, or p238 ankle carry. P365 is always main, 410 Or p238 is backup, unless we are talking small animal (dog) or snake, then I’ll pull my derringer. One shot should be all it takes with a 410.
All three are very easy concealable, printing happens, but in Texas printing is not an issue when it comes to defining conceal/open carry.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I carry a 9 shield on my body, but an old Glock 19 in a holster and 2 extra mags in a pouch lives in my jeep, should I need "more". Also one of those H&R 12 gauge shotguns that is a 870 knockoff.
 
I carry a singular firearm 99.9% of the time, but there have been extremely rare occurrences that I've carried a second firearm.
 
I believe New Mexico allows only 1 concealed handgun at a time.
You're right.

10.8.2.16 TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF LICENSE:


A. Carrying only handguns listed on license. No person shall carry a concealed handgun of a different category or higher caliber than is indicated on the license issued to that person by the department. A licensee shall only carry one concealed handgun at any given time.



Learn something new every day. I didn't realize NM was that much of a hassle.
 
You're right.

10.8.2.16 TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF LICENSE:


A. Carrying only handguns listed on license. No person shall carry a concealed handgun of a different category or higher caliber than is indicated on the license issued to that person by the department. A licensee shall only carry one concealed handgun at any given time.



Learn something new every day. I didn't realize NM was that much of a hassle.
I suppose you can open carry as many as you want as long is one is concealed. I drive through the state at least a couple times a year. I enjoy it.
 
You're right.

10.8.2.16 TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF LICENSE:


A. Carrying only handguns listed on license. No person shall carry a concealed handgun of a different category or higher caliber than is indicated on the license issued to that person by the department. A licensee shall only carry one concealed handgun at any given time.



Learn something new every day. I didn't realize NM was that much of a hassle.

You can carry more then one handgun, but only one concealed. The rest must be openly carried.

New Mexico is constitutional carry for open carry and does not require a license to open carry.
 
Florida is not an open-carry state.

Kel-Tec PF9 on the hip, IWB holster worn between the belt and waistband, concealed beneath a cover garment. Kel-Tec P32 along in a pocket. Spare magazine for the P32 also along, in the watch pocket, hidden behind cell phone case (if conditions call for more discretion, the PF9 can be doffed and stowed away.)
 
Usually just one if it’s going to be real crowded where my arm might be grabbed I’ll stick a bug in my off side
 
I used to EDC two j-frames -- one in a pocket holster and another in an ankle holster -- everyday. With j frames, especially airweight/lite models, it was quite reasonable. I switched to a long-barreled L frame for EDC, and I think I will pass on carrying two. Would that make me like Yosemite Sam?

A strategy that is popularly contemplated, even if it's not popularly practiced, is to have a larger "primary" gun, probably something like a compact pistol (Glock 19 size), and then a smaller "backup" gun like a single-stack subcompact or pocket pistol (Keltec or LCP). There are several advantages to having a "backup" gun, but some of those advantages are diminished if they backup gun is tiny and marginally effective. Conceivable problems that call for a "backup" gun are not likely to be well-suited to mouse-gun solutions.

For me, the real problem comes about when the choice to carry a "backup" gun results in less "primary" gun being carried. In my experience, big and heavy guns are just better than small and light. I think most people are only willing to carry so much gun size and weight. If that size and weight budget is invested in a primary gun, you can afford a better weapon. If the size and weight budget is split between primary and backup, the primary will suffer and that tradeoff is a bad one.

I would not be interested in carrying a backup if I wasn't already carrying a full-size primary. The benefits of upsizing the primary are better and more likely to be useful than adding a backup. Adding a mouse gun for a backup is especially poor value for the additional bulk and weight. There might be some conditions in which two full size handguns would be a good idea. That's not my EDC situation, but I do see the benefits of a backup gun as long as it is at least as good as the full-size primary gun.
 
I used to EDC two j-frames -- one in a pocket holster and another in an ankle holster -- everyday. With j frames, especially airweight/lite models, it was quite reasonable. I switched to a long-barreled L frame for EDC, and I think I will pass on carrying two. Would that make me like Yosemite Sam?

A strategy that is popularly contemplated, even if it's not popularly practiced, is to have a larger "primary" gun, probably something like a compact pistol (Glock 19 size), and then a smaller "backup" gun like a single-stack subcompact or pocket pistol (Keltec or LCP). There are several advantages to having a "backup" gun, but some of those advantages are diminished if they backup gun is tiny and marginally effective. Conceivable problems that call for a "backup" gun are not likely to be well-suited to mouse-gun solutions.

For me, the real problem comes about when the choice to carry a "backup" gun results in less "primary" gun being carried. In my experience, big and heavy guns are just better than small and light. I think most people are only willing to carry so much gun size and weight. If that size and weight budget is invested in a primary gun, you can afford a better weapon. If the size and weight budget is split between primary and backup, the primary will suffer and that tradeoff is a bad one.

I would not be interested in carrying a backup if I wasn't already carrying a full-size primary. The benefits of upsizing the primary are better and more likely to be useful than adding a backup. Adding a mouse gun for a backup is especially poor value for the additional bulk and weight. There might be some conditions in which two full size handguns would be a good idea. That's not my EDC situation, but I do see the benefits of a backup gun as long as it is at least as good as the full-size primary gun.

Here’s my thought.... normally i don’t duel EDC on a daily basis. However when I do most of the time it will be my p365 with 15 round mag, and my bond arms derringer loaded up with 3” magnum PDX rounds. The derringer with 410’s at close range make a great backup especially for close range. Hit shouldn’t take more then 2 rounds at close range to take almost anything down with that. Makes it a little easier for defense against rabid dogs if needed IMHO over using my 9mm.

When I am hiking in the back country with my 454 Casull, yes that will take anything down. But the one nice thing about the derringer with Shot shells, is it will take the smaller dangerous animals down from dog sized and smaller, faster and easier then a larger 454. I even carry a 92fs. Each serves a purpose and will be used depending on the threat.

once I came across a small crop of illegal pot growing. Luckily no one was around as I scurried to get out of their quickly Who knows what trouble that might stir up in Texas!

I think having a second or third gun, isn’t just about having a backup if the primary fails, or is lost in battle, but having an alternative choice based on the threat. In regards to a smaller gun, if your primary fails, is lost, or you run out of ammo. A smaller caliber, even that of a mouse gun, is still and always will be better then having nothing at all.

I look at it as why I carry more then one credit/debit card with me. Sure I could always use just the one when I am out on the town and shop. But each CC/debit I have has advantages for certain purchases that the others don’t have. So depending on the purchase that is made, decides what CC/debit I use.

As with everything, what I carry, how I carry the one or several is always dependent on where I am going, what I am wearing, who i am with, the weather, and last but not least the potential threats I might encounter.
 
Back when I lived in a densely packed suburb 15 minutes away from a top 10 murder city, I dual carried firearms. Typically it was a double stack 9/40/45, spare magazine for that and a single stack 9mm/380 on my ankle, as well as a spare magazine for that. I also carried pepper spray and a knife. Living where I do now at the end of a dirt road in a town of less than 500 people, I do not feel the need to dual carry firearms at all.
 
...The derringer with 410’s at close range make a great backup especially for close range. Hit shouldn’t take more then 2 rounds at close range to take almost anything down with that. Makes it a little easier for defense against rabid dogs if needed IMHO over using my 9mm.

I don't follow this reasoning. I don't see how a derringer makes anything easier than a pistol. I also don't see how 410 is better than 9mm for anything except bats at 10 yards.


Each serves a purpose and will be used depending on the threat.... I think having a second or third gun, isn’t just about having a backup if the primary fails, or is lost in battle, but having an alternative choice based on the threat.

Granted I still don't see how the 410 derringer is better for any type of threat, I also don't see the advantage of having a menu of lethal force options even if they weren't redundant. To me, it makes more sense to avoid unnecessary dilemmas in a critical incident. I do think a "backup" gives a meaningful benefit when it offers an alternative location to draw from. For example, a gun in a pocket might be inaccessible when seated or when someone is sitting on you, but draw from an ankle might be a viable alternative in these circumstances. Such a contingency is a small benefit if the primary is carried in a way that is readily accessible and I would favor that rather than a less accessible primary with a backup.

In regards to a smaller gun, if your primary fails, is lost, or you run out of ammo. A smaller caliber, even that of a mouse gun, is still and always will be better then having nothing at all.

Yes, we can always use the argument "better to have and not need than need and not have." That will just about cover any thing. But it doesn't make it a good plan. It just means you end up carrying more junk. It most often fails when the result is carrying less effective guns like a derringer, a P238, P365, or a 454 instead of a 92FS. Seriously, just carry the 92. The other guns have no point and there is no credible threat that they're better for than the 92. When you carry any of those without the 92, they don't add anything but they took something better away.
 
Everyday? Not much, lately, but I have, and may well do so regularly, in the near future. My right shoulder, which has been a bit tricky all of my adult life, has diminishing range of motion, as I get older, and wear/tear-related arthritis has been affecting my right thumb, wrist, and hand, starting in that order, since I neared 50, and getting worse. Because I have carried on or near the right hip since 1984, including 33+ years of big-city policing, I know that I will tend to reflexively reach for my right hip. So, as I transition to left-side* carry, I will continue to keep a weapon on or near my right hip.

From 2002, and for the next several years, I tended to carry multiple revolvers. This was when I switched police duty pistols, reluctantly, from 1911 to G22, and decided to go “all in” with Glock, as my only auto-loader handgun system. I could shoot my SP101 revolvers as well as, or better than, a Glock G22, within the limitations of the smaller-profile revolver sights, and never could shoot a G22 nearly as well as my GP100 revolvers. When I switched to a P229R duty pistol, in 2004, I finally had an auto that I could shoot about as well as a 1911, and almost as well as a GP100, so, after a while, I added a non-railed P229, and found that I could conceal it more comfortably than the railed P229R, so eventually felt less need for the second weapon.

If I am pocket-carrying, in and about the house, I have tended to up-gun when going “into town,” and have often kept the pocketed gun in place, as much a convenience factor as it being a “back-up” weapon. I have done this, off and on, since 1984.

For a while, before I had a really good fire safe, owned relatively few firearms, and there was a rash of area LEOs’ homes being torched, in the area, I would wear two or three handguns, and keep another one or two in a satchel, whenever practicable.

*I am actually left-handed, when doing most fine detail work, and right-armed, when using most larger tools, so am not handicapped when shooting lefty. Drawing my first duty duty revolver, a relatively heavy L-Frame, from the then-mandated low-slung duty holster, felt quite natural with my right hand and arm, and long-stroke DA triggers felt OK righty or lefty, plus, it is easier to reach for one’s right hip while driving most cars, so I chose to carry right-side, when I was first able to legally carry. (Texas had no handgun carry license system, yet, at that time.)
 
Plus, the best speed-loaders are bulky, so, a second compact revolver is about as easy to tote as a speed-loader. ;)
 
I don't follow this reasoning. I don't see how a derringer makes anything easier than a pistol. I also don't see how 410 is better than 9mm for anything except bats at 10 yards.




Granted I still don't see how the 410 derringer is better for any type of threat, I also don't see the advantage of having a menu of lethal force options even if they weren't redundant. To me, it makes more sense to avoid unnecessary dilemmas in a critical incident. I do think a "backup" gives a meaningful benefit when it offers an alternative location to draw from. For example, a gun in a pocket might be inaccessible when seated or when someone is sitting on you, but draw from an ankle might be a viable alternative in these circumstances. Such a contingency is a small benefit if the primary is carried in a way that is readily accessible and I would favor that rather than a less accessible primary with a backup.



Yes, we can always use the argument "better to have and not need than need and not have." That will just about cover any thing. But it doesn't make it a good plan. It just means you end up carrying more junk. It most often fails when the result is carrying less effective guns like a derringer, a P238, P365, or a 454 instead of a 92FS. Seriously, just carry the 92. The other guns have no point and there is no credible threat that they're better for than the 92. When you carry any of those without the 92, they don't add anything but they took something better away.

Well the added benefit of why shotguns in general make good SD weapons, is that your aim doesn’t always have to be right on target.

Shooting a small animal running at you and getting on target with a 9mm, 45 or even 454 even At close range when startled is much more difficult, then using a shotgun shell. If your on uneven ground, or unstable ground shotgun shots even from a small 4” double barrel shotgun will always be easier to get on target no matter what the target is.

Backup guns are just that, a backup. No matter what gun is your primary EDC gun, for more reasons than one can count on all the ands and feet of our congress, ANY gun has the potential to fail, or be “lost”. This to me is the main reason to have a backup gun. One could be like Yosemite Sam and carry two huge ass side arms. But like you said just more weight to carry. Thus a small compact backup like a p238 in an ankle holster or pocket makes a good choice for backup.

I don’t kill snakes on public lands, but I can tell you killing Rattlesnakes (on my property) is much easier with a 410 shot shell, then with a 9mm.

Also shooting a 410 4” double barrel from the hip at close range is also much easier to hit your intended target as well. If one has time to raise and aim like we do at the range, then sure, there are much better alternatives. I don’t know anyone who is as good a shot shooting from the hip as they are if they take a more precise aim.
 
Everyday? Not much, lately, but I have, and may well do so regularly, in the near future. My right shoulder, which has been a bit tricky all of my adult life, has diminishing range of motion, as I get older, and wear/tear-related arthritis has been affecting my right thumb, wrist, and hand, starting in that order, since I neared 50, and getting worse. Because I have carried on or near the right hip since 1984, including 33+ years of big-city policing, I know that I will tend to reflexively reach for my right hip. So, as I transition to left-side* carry, I will continue to keep a weapon on or near my right hip.

From 2002, and for the next several years, I tended to carry multiple revolvers. This was when I switched police duty pistols, reluctantly, from 1911 to G22, and decided to go “all in” with Glock, as my only auto-loader handgun system. I could shoot my SP101 revolvers as well as, or better than, a Glock G22, within the limitations of the smaller-profile revolver sights, and never could shoot a G22 nearly as well as my GP100 revolvers. When I switched to a P229R duty pistol, in 2004, I finally had an auto that I could shoot about as well as a 1911, and almost as well as a GP100, so, after a while, I added a non-railed P229, and found that I could conceal it more comfortably than the railed P229R, so eventually felt less need for the second weapon.

If I am pocket-carrying, in and about the house, I have tended to up-gun when going “into town,” and have often kept the pocketed gun in place, as much a convenience factor as it being a “back-up” weapon. I have done this, off and on, since 1984.

For a while, before I had a really good fire safe, owned relatively few firearms, and there was a rash of area LEOs’ homes being torched, in the area, I would wear two or three handguns, and keep another one or two in a satchel, whenever practicable.

*I am actually left-handed, when doing most fine detail work, and right-armed, when using most larger tools, so am not handicapped when shooting lefty. Drawing my first duty duty revolver, a relatively heavy L-Frame, from the then-mandated low-slung duty holster, felt quite natural with my right hand and arm, and long-stroke DA triggers felt OK righty or lefty, plus, it is easier to reach for one’s right hip while driving most cars, so I chose to carry right-side, when I was first able to legally carry. (Texas had no handgun carry license system, yet, at that time.)


I am a righty, but some of my guns I shoot better from the left then my right, yet some I shoot better from the right. My 92fs I can shoot equally well left or right, but it took practice. I think everyone should always practice with both hands.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top