Standard Pressure, Heavy .45 Colt Question

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i'm still bettin' on ten water jugs of penetration. i'll try and borrow a 454 casull and do the accuracy test, but the state is closed to shooting right now and won't open up till monsoon season (about the second week in july).

murf
 
Yes, cast .507 750gr for a belt fed ma deuce, way overpowered. It failed.

Couldn't keep up with the ejecta- lead and powder and links are crap. I know why they went with 3200fps copper for airborne now. Jeaesus.

After about half a belt, it was an automatic, targeted not aimed, blast machine.

Would not.want either end.
 
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just got back from a three day camp trip and decided to see how much those "325 grain" bullets really weigh. in grains: 324.1, 320.6, 320.0, 321.3, 321.3, 319.9, 322.5, 321.9, 322.3, 321.9. all bullets measured 4.525" +/- .0005" in diameter.

so this bullet is really a 320 grain bullet. the avg. for these ten is 321.6, the extreme spread is 4.2. i see i am going to have to weigh the bullets if i want them all to be within a couple of grains of each other as that 324 grain bullet is way off.

so, walkalong, what do your bullets really weigh?

murf

Likely due to alloy. 325 16bhn mold 22+bhn by memory. That holds. With the vagaries of rifle.lube and gas check weights, not.bad

Glad the sizer worked!

5 grains in a 3oo+ grain bullet isn't nothing except for bullseye

If you are shooting 300!+ grain bullseye, you out beast even me!

( and I dont shoot no more !!!)
 
It's a cast lead bullet, plain and simple. Plenty of very hard cast bullets on the market. The ones I shot in the old Blackhawk years ago were harder. Too hard, harder than needed even for the .454.
 
350 pumpkin chunkers all ready to go.
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Nice lookin' ammo. Kudos to you for everything you did and the concise and accurate way of reporting your progress. I'd like to hear of accuracy beyond 25 yards. No real practical way, and not that it matters, but it would also be interesting to know what the actual chamber pressure is.
 
Alright @JShirley , we'll be waiting on a range report! Is the intended target paper, steel or critter?
Well, I'm moving to NC. In NC, literally any caliber is legal for deer. I'd like a load that's safe for my Model 25, that will blow right through a deer at moderate ranges.

Walkalong was kind enough to adjust his schedule so we could meet before I leave town.
M25 and BFR
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I started by firing a cylinder of Walkalong's standard FMJ target load, for comparison. Recoil was relatively mild. The Model 25 shot quite high.

Switching to the heavy cast felt different. The recoil wasn't heavy or punishing, but was more noticeable. POI was again quite high. The sights were adjusted as far down as possible, but POI remains maybe 4" higher at 18 yards than POA.

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We lined up 11 jugs of water, and took the first shot. It penetrated 9 milk jugs, but after looking again, we realized that the bullet had been fired at a slight angle, so that it missed the last 2 jugs.

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Fortunately, since the impact was relatively high on the jugs, we could just move the split first jug, and shoot again with a lower POA. Penetration this time was well into the 10th jug.
 

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Switching to the heavy cast felt different. The recoil wasn't heavy or punishing, but was more noticeable.

I mentioned before about the odd recoil I got with BE-86 and the 270grn Montana bullets I tested. Where my standard Unique load pops your hand... the BE-86 loads did not, and the report was almost muted. It was really strange. As I also mentioned, the chrono told me they were moving at 725fps, and the 1/2" hole in the paper told me they got there, but I kept thinking I was shooting squibs.

Glad everything worked out in the end!
 
Well, I'm moving to NC. In NC, literally any caliber is legal for deer. I'd like a load that's safe for my Model 25, that will blow right through a deer at moderate ranges.

Beautiful state NC. Spent quite a bit of time over the years riding Motorcycle in the Maggie Valley/Robbinsville/Nantahala National Forest areas. Intend to make it back again, hopefully. You got a good projectile, running at the velocity you want and will safely shoot in the 25. Hopefully you can do something about the high POI. If she's shooting 4" high at 18 yards, she's probably what, 7-8 inches high at 30?
 
Beautiful state NC. Spent quite a bit of time over the years riding Motorcycle in the Maggie Valley/Robbinsville/Nantahala National Forest areas. Intend to make it back again, hopefully. You got a good projectile, running at the velocity you want and will safely shoot in the 25. Hopefully you can do something about the high POI. If she's shooting 4" high at 18 yards, she's probably what, 7-8 inches high at 30?


"Aim low, and breathe"

I think is probably pretty appropriate here.

I'm pretty sure with a tad bit of practice, such an arrangement could be quite useful, especially in the woods.

If you happened to be mounted on any of those 45 degree hill expeditions, this becomes exponentially more useful in defense: think cavalry sights on the old colts: high as can be, soldiers trained to use em to not overshoot when mounted. Neat.

Either way, fairly confident that if JShirley sees the walking backstrap: he'll get it in the pickle barrel.
 
I could reliably hit near the center of a 10in target at 18 yards, once I knew where to hold. I do, however, have a Thompson Contender 45 Colt. I'm trying to limit the number of firearms I take to NC, since I'll have to register them all on base, but the Contender might be a choice. it's also strong enough that I can choose to use the 260 grain 1200 fps so-called + p Colt loads I have so many of, as well. Or, I could choose to not take either, and just take my BFR Casull, which is so unpleasant to shoot with true full power loads. It was extremely pleasant with this Walkalong load!

Casull loads do this quickly.

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John
 
BFR Casull, which is so unpleasant to shoot with true full power loads
John and I sighted that in together (Steel plate was a little over 50 yards), and the recoil is substantial, plus it has way more power than is needed to kill deer.
 
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