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We need to write and post to Kroger about a new restrictive policy about firearms depicted on magazine covers and politely point out that while they may have customers who may complain about firearms images on the cover of magazines they have far more that aren't bothered or who actually look for these magazines to buy because of the picture of an AR. Kroger has other solutions as they've always had with periodicals if people don't want to see the cheesecake photos of men or women on covers and we should encourage them to make the effort to be inclusive. Lets ignore the errors in their descriptions in our response, and here, lest we become wonky and nit picky and ruin the message we want to deliver.

Be polite.

Don't make threats, but do tell them you're distributing their letter and the graphic with an explanation that Kroger is trying to interfere with what publications put on their covers without making any effort they've made in the past to manage access to the magazines.

Use the graphic in your letters.

Kroger's new "editorial" policy change towards magazines is fundamentally wrong by not being inclusive of all their customers. Banning publications because of those triggered by firearms images is unfair to the customers who are in the great majority who have no problem with firearms on covers. Where Kroger serves communities that may not want to see these covers displayed Kroger has other less radical ways to provide placement instead of banning images on magazines. Would Kroger ban images of members of minorities or nationalities because might be prejudiced against them? Please reconsider and discard this irrational policy.

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BTW, if you intend to not do business with Kroger over this make it clear that you say it in a civil manner. It does no good to just stop doing business with Kroger, WalMart, etc. if you don't tell them you're going to do it since it takes MONTHS after they've established an Anti policy to see any bottom line impacts due to offending customers, e.g.

I have alternatives to doing business with Kroger that have not taken this editorial policy and intend to take my family shopping to ABC if it is not reversed. I will encourage my friends and family to do so as well if Kroger decides to send the message that it is not interested in providing to all their customer interests across the country.

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I wonder if there's any empirical evidence of a letter-writing campaign to a vehemently-anti-gun company prompting it to reverse itself on such a stance, or on any action related to that stance, in recent years.

I do remember that, several years ago, particularly following BHO's election, and especially after Sandy Hook, firearms-related periodicals had all but disappeared from the shelves at grocery stores and even at Wal-Mart stores around here. About four years ago, maybe, I noticed they're back in significant numbers, though I have to admit that I have not bought one in over a year (or more.)

I live in Florida, and have never seen a Kroger store south of Virginia. We have Winn-Dixie and Publix to dominate the non-Wal-Mart market. WD typically carried/carries them. I've never noticed one way or the other about Publix because I do not shop there much.
 
MedWheeler said:
I wonder if there's any empirical evidence of a letter-writing campaign
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REI was the subject of such a campaign and they quietly backed off. So have others, but they don't make a big deal of reacting to our letters/emails/posts. When you tell a retailer that you've been a customer for years, that you're going to take your money to a specific competitor and that you're going to influence others to do so as well in your family, friends and circle of acquaintances. It gives them the incentive to reconsider if the one letter represents 10 or 100 unhappy customers and specifies who will be getting the dollars they loose.
 
Moderator Note - Folks, the rules are posted clearly on how Activism works. If you have other ideas or just want to be negative instead of building on the original plan of action start another thread for the other action and, well, Activism isn't about negativism.
 
MedWheeler said:
I wonder if there's any empirical evidence of a letter-writing campaign to a vehemently-anti-gun company prompting it to reverse itself on such a stance, or on any action related to that stance, in recent years.
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To be fair, Kroger has not been what I would call "vehemently-anti-gun." No question, their open carry stance and this aren't great. That being said, they haven't (that I'm aware of) been activist like some companies.
 
Here's what I wrote to Kroger:

"I recently learned that Kroger has banned photos of such items as pistol grips on rifles, magazines over 5 rounds, and dreaded bayonet lugs from the covers of all magazines sold in Kroger stores. Photos of AR-15s, the most popular rifle in America, are also banned from magazine covers.

This policy is virtue signalling at its most shallow. It bows to the most simplistic calls for "gun control" while ignoring the facts about guns (in this case rifles) in America.

Did you know that, according to the FBI, rifles of all kinds (of which dreaded "assault weapons" are but a subset) were used in only about 2% of all murders in America in 2018? Of murders involving firearms, only about 3% were committed with any kind of a rifle in 2018.

Also, did you also know that these numbers have actually fallen since 2004 when the federal "assault rifle ban" expired? In 2004, 2.9% of all murders were committed with rifles, and 4.2% of firearms-related murders were committed with rifles.

Despite a huge increase in the popularity and numbers of AR-15s and other "assault weapons" in private hands since 2004, their involvement in murders has actually gone down over that period.

Also, please note that 2004 saw about as many murders in the United States as in 2018 (14,210 in 2004 vs 14,123 in 2018).

The FACTS are that there is no new epidemic of murders in the United States. Likewise, there is no new epidemic of rifle-related murder in the United States.

Those shrill voices to whom your policy currently bows are, no doubt, completely unaware of these facts. In my experience, facts don't matter to these voices. For them, emotional triggering is all that matters. You, on the other hand, should know better.

I come to your store to buy fruit and vegetables. Not to fund your misguided politicizing. Please stop it."

The data is from the Crime Prevention Research Center: https://crimeresearch.org/2019/11/w...are-of-murders-with-rifles-changed-over-time/
 
MedWheeler said:
I live in Florida, and have never seen a Kroger store south of Virginia. We have Winn-Dixie and Publix to dominate the non-Wal-Mart market. WD typically carried/carries them. I've never noticed one way or the other about Publix because I do not shop there much.
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Kroger owns Harris Teeter, who has only one store in Florida about 7 miles from the GA border. I've noticed that you can't view RFC or The High Road while on HT wi-fi.

Kroger is pretty strong in parts of the South (TN, for example) where people haven't yet folded to the left.
 
BigBL87 said:
To be fair, Kroger has not been what I would call "vehemently-anti-gun." No question, their open carry stance and this aren't great. That being said, they haven't (that I'm aware of) been activist like some companies.
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they're sticking to the "leave me along" category, and just trying to back off from the controversy alltogether and be a grocery store... Up here though, the Left has decided to push the issue and force them to take a stand one way or the other. The Left pushes much harder, and thats a factor.
 
Writing to these stores means nothing to them, nada. Just something to laugh at. These old tactics used by Pro Gun lobby have done nothing. If the sport of shooting is going to continue, which I do not think it is, then a whole new game plan needs to be established. I have no idea of what that plan is. Amazing how people do not understand. They do not care about a AR. They want all guns period. And it is not about guns, it is about power. And they won period.
Maybe we need to understand their game plan. their tactics, they have used in the past and learn to beat them at their own game. Maybe it is time to take off the gloves.
 
Ernie Bass said:
Writing to these stores means nothing to them, nada. Just something to laugh at. These old tactics used by Pro Gun lobby have done nothing. If the sport of shooting is going to continue, which I do not think it is, then a whole new game plan needs to be established. I have no idea of what that plan is. Amazing how people do not understand. They do not care about a AR. They want all guns period. And it is not about guns, it is about power. And they won period.
Maybe we need to understand their game plan. their tactics, they have used in the past and learn to beat them at their own game. Maybe it is time to take off the gloves.
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no maybe

IT IS or more accurately IT’S LONG OVERDUE

an opponent is respectful and deserves respect.
An enemy shows no mercy,

unlike them we need to show respect to our opponents but start looking at our enemies as such as treat them appropriately.
 
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Ernie Bass said:
Writing to these stores means nothing to them, nada. Just something to laugh at. These old tactics used by Pro Gun lobby have done nothing. If the sport of shooting is going to continue, which I do not think it is, then a whole new game plan needs to be established. I have no idea of what that plan is. Amazing how people do not understand. They do not care about a AR. They want all guns period. And it is not about guns, it is about power. And they won period.
Maybe we need to understand their game plan. their tactics, they have used in the past and learn to beat them at their own game. Maybe it is time to take off the gloves.
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This.

You folks that are still doing business with "woke" businesses under ANY circumstances or are trying to "change" them are wasting your time.

You do realize there are plenty of non commie stores to shop at, yes?

Show them with your dollar, nothing else.
 
Ernie Bass said:
Writing to these stores means nothing to them, nada. Just something to laugh at. These old tactics used by Pro Gun lobby have done nothing. If the sport of shooting is going to continue, which I do not think it is, then a whole new game plan needs to be established. I have no idea of what that plan is. Amazing how people do not understand. They do not care about a AR. They want all guns period. And it is not about guns, it is about power. And they won period.
Maybe we need to understand their game plan. their tactics, they have used in the past and learn to beat them at their own game. Maybe it is time to take off the gloves.
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HEAR HEAR!!
 
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