Bulk 22LR Ammo and Toilet Paper?

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We stopped in one of our favorite gun stores in Idaho Falls yesterday. They must have had at least 50, 5,000 round cases of some type of bulk Winchester 22LR ammo stacked down the middle of one of the aisles. It wasn’t something we were interested in, so even though one of the guys working there was talking it up, we didn’t pay much attention. I don’t even remember what they were asking for it.

Anyway, I hope the store sells all of that ammo, but I’m wondering - are people really using, or planning on using that much 22LR ammo? Could it be that some folks think 22LR ammo might be good for bartering in the not too distant future? Or could it just be another “buy yourself a basement full of Costco toilet paper” kind of thing?

We did buy a brick (500 rounds) of Federal 22LR ammo while we were there. But that’s because (as I’ve mentioned in other posts) lately my wife and I have been trying to put a dent in the ground squirrel population over at a friend’s ranch while waiting out the virus. Nevertheless, fall will get here and the ground squirrels will go back in the ground before my wife and I together will go through 1 brick, let alone 10 bricks of 22LR ammo.o_O
 
I guess it depends on how much you shoot, how many kids/grandkids you have over and how often, and how much you like .22
Yeah, I forgot about that - we're old, and our grandkids bring their own ammo when they come out to the house to go hunting or shooting nowadays. The fact is, my wife and I are probably not that far away from having great-grandkids shooting off our back porch.:)
 
I keep a large supply of rimfire for two reasons.....(1) not practical to reload, (2) not "if", but when states begin taxing each round of ammo, mine will be tax free. Won't say how much I have but was accused of being responsible for the nation wide shortages couple years ago. :)
 
When I take the kids shooting we routinely blow through a brick in an afternoon. I could probably make 100 shells last a whole year of hunting. When I shoot something like the buckmark I might go through half or more of a brick.

This is about the only thing I use that isn't something I can cast and reload for. Consequently I have stocked a lot of it.
 
Depends, in part, on what you have in stock. Only one roll of TP? Feels much better to have a 96 pack than a 4 pack plus the half roll stashed behind the pickup seat. .22, same way. If you NEED some, a little feels good, a lot feels better. How big a lot depends on how much you shoot and what you perceive to be the duration of the general shortage. I’m not looking for prices or quantities in stores to change much. There’s still this whole COVID fear, and it’s an election year to boot. When the gougers are selling ammo at 50 to 100% more than it was at Christmas, that tells me the general fear is widespread. That said, I and a friend split a 20,000 round lot last summer at .04 a round. I’ll shoot it up, and I get to feel smart in the meanwhile.
 
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For me reloading works. The problem is .22 rimfire is hard if not impossible to reload. And it is way easier to take 500 rounds of .22LR to the range than it is say, 223 ammo. Let alone the cost diffetence. More trigger time at a lower cost is always a win if you ask me. I try to anticipate what my next 5 years consumption will be and buy to maintain that level while taking advantage of sales whenever possible. If my stocks drop below the 3 years number I will stop shooting it and go to something I can reload like 22 Hornet or 223 in a bolt rifle at lower velocities. All things I consider to keep trigger time consistent long term.
 
For me it would depend on cost and what brand the ammo was. I shoot mainly suppressed and I have bought 5,000 rounds in a box several times. The prime benefit is batch testing of suppressors, so I would be looking for ammo that was subsonic out of a suppressor.
 
Same for me. Depends on what the brand/type it is and the price. If it's one I am interested in and the price is right I buy all that I can.

Bartering anything is an if/when/maybe thing. The right circumstances come together I probably would, but chances are I never will so whatever I buy had better be something I was going to use anyway.

About the only thing I buy any more is CCI SV and MiniMag because it has always been reliable in anything I shoot it in.
 
I think there are 2 types of 'buyers'. Those that buy it because they think they will 'need' it..
And those who buy it because they worry that they won't be able to in the future, cuz they shoot it(for fun).

BUT, ammo makers are running FSA(full speed ahead). Distribution is the problem, not manufacturing. Retailers and manufacturers(and distributors) work on a certain 'flow through', to determine inventory. Demand went off the page(twice)..shortages but, with time, since ammo is a durable good. the system will catch up. Smart manufacturers, distributors aren't making YUGE changes to how they do business. Federal is breaking ground on new factories since this current demand gig is situational and IMHO, temporary..
 
I got back into shooting a number of years ago after a 20 year hiatus due to family and work obligations. At that time there were shortages of guns and ammo and what you could find was expensive. I learned my lesson, and when prices dropped recently I stocked up on ammo and reloading supplies and am glad I did. Buying when prices were low was a financial decision. We'll easily go through 500 or more rounds of 22 in a range session. I won't hoard ammo, but did buy enough so that we're good for the next couple of years.
 
It was a short 10 years ago when .22lr just didn't exist in stores, and it was that way for 4 years straight, and many of us remember that. At one point I was down to my last 500-round brick of bulk and another 1,000 rounds of mini mags, and it's easy enough to go through 500 rounds in a single range trip. Never again. I've got enough to last me 3-4 years of shooting now, which is great because that means I don't need to overpay for .22lr right now.
 
I pretty much burn through at least a brick a week of bulk pack .22lr ammo shooting steel plates. Makes me feel like Jerry Miculek when I hit the third plate just before the first has finished falling :) They are center fire rated plate racks so they fall slow, but its great fun and good for the ego!

I try to restock as I shoot to keep about a two year supply (~50K rounds, ~2200 per month, a 550 bulk pack per week) , but I only buy when prices are good. I've recently been as high as 75K rounds when there were some nice sales on 5000 round case lots before last Xmas.
 
Back when 500 round bricks were about $8, both my boys would go through a brick each in a morning at the public rifle range. If the price is right (and you have the means and the room), buy a case. The way things are going ion this country, ammo might become an alternative barter currency.
 
They must have had at least 50, 5,000 round cases of some type of bulk Winchester 22LR ammo stacked down the middle of one of the aisles.

... are people really using ... that much 22LR ammo?
In the past 2 years, just for my personal plinking with friends using 10/22s/ARs with CMMG 22LR conversions and comparison 22LR ammo testing using 2 new rifles (10/22 Collector #3 and T/CR22) while slowly capturing every 10 shot group along with GSG 1911, I managed to shoot over 16,000 rounds (Over $600).

Imagine if they were .223/5.56 rounds? Thank goodness we have 9mm AR carbines that I could reload for about twice the cost of 22LR. And in addition to 22LR, I think we shot over 15,000 rounds at a cost of $1500 to reload. Had I shot 16,000 rounds of 9mm instead of 22LR, cost to reload would have increased by another $1600. And reloading .223? Over $4000.

So, for me there's a good reason to shoot a lot of 22LR, cost savings to the tune of spending $2100 for 22LR/9mm instead of $5500 for 9mm/.223.

And for next 20 years, that's over $35,000 in savings to shoot 22LR.

In the past 27 years of shooting/reloading, I have spent over $176,000 on shooting/reloading expenses and most of that was for ammunition/reloading components.

So whenever I see a good sale on 22LR ammo my rifles like (My buy threshold is $20/500 or less) , I buy the entire shelf - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...15-20-500-shipped.853059/page-3#post-11534906

And based on several 10/22s, T/CR22 and ARs with CMMG 22LR conversions, I will buy as much as I can of CCI Blazer 40 gr LRN boxed (Not loose bulk), Federal Auto Match and any Aguila for less than $20/500 or Armscor/Thunderbolt for less than $17/500 for greater accuracy over other brand 22LR.
 
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I rarely shoot 22LR I still have 22LR ammo that I bought 20 years ago. I would spend a little extra to by Federal target ammo if I were in the market. It functions in my 22's well, at least what I have does, I assume its still good stuff.
 
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