Dillon RL550 swage it attach.

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Nature Boy said:
If you’re processing a lot of NATO brass you find the price point worth it, in my opinion
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Problem is those suckers fit perfectly in 3/8" drill and you can ream the pockets out with hand tools just as fast as using the $300 swage, and it works on other cartridges sizes as well. If Dillon didn't set such a huge price on everything they would have cornered the market already.
 
The swagers Dillon makes both the stand alone and integrated one on their presses all have a back up rod that goes inside the case (same thing for others like the Hornady, RCBS, etc). The after market ones for the 550/650 machines do not, so your just shoving the case up with the swage rod. So they put more stress there and don’t do as good of a job as one that property supports the case.

If you are dealing with a lot of crimped pockets, swaging as you load is worth every penny.

Still have to size and trim on a separate pass but swaging and loading go by quickly. As in, I can swage and load them faster than most people could pickup as many individual cases, much less swage or cut the crimp.

 
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Agree......but you do have to be able to afford a 1050 setup. If you can't I'd rather do it with a bench swager than any press-mounted setup you described. Except........

IMO, if you can't have a 1050, there's one other much better option ...... the little Lee APP single with built-in case feeder. I've found it to be more than twice as fast as a bench swager and like them, it has a backup rod that makes it work well as well as fast. Weakness? It isn't perfect, because it's so light weight. If they had started with a heavy-duty tool like say the RCBS Summit press, that would be fantastic.....but it is what it is.....and I'm happy to have this new efficiency, light weight or not.

I used Lee's tool changing bench plate.....and that amplifies the light weight issue by introducing added movement. (Why?....wanted to share the mounting location with a bench primer.) That's going away......it needs a better solid mount.

The huge efficiencty plus is the App's tube case feeder can easily be hooked to your Dillon Case collator.....guaranteed to make you smile.....and all at a price point of just adding another tool head.
 
I have the 600 Super Swage and it was around $100 a few years back. Fairly priced for what it is.

But slow. The swage-it I got for the 650 was also fairly inexpensive, $99 IIRC. No idea where the $290 is coming from. Reality is, that's $200 of crimp removal gadgets that should have just got saved up toward a 1050......
 
Texas10mm said:
$290???
https://www.dillonprecision.com/super-swage-600_8_8_25263.html $115 is the price on the Dillon website.
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For that price and all you can do is deswage one at a time?

Lee APP Primer Swage Kit at Titan…..$36.25

-https://www.titanreloading.com/lee-precision-reloading-equipment/lee-presses/app-automatic-processing-press/lee-deluxe-app-pressprimer-swage-kit

Lee APP press w/ case feeder at Titan ….$75.29

https://www.titanreloading.com/lee-...press/lee-app-primer-pocket-swage-kit/lee-app

Total $111.54!

and you can process in twice the speed at least, and with a Dillon Collator never touch the brass. Plus do other useful things like deprime hundreds at a time first, so they can be swaged with the same tool and faster than taking each case around a progressive.

Admittedly the shuttle needs a little work to feed rifle right, but the fix is easy, and anybody smart enough to use a progressive can handle that in a half hour mod.

I know it isn't a Dillon, but have you priced a Dillon Processing Press? and do you have room for one?
 
how does that deprime & swage faster than a progressive? Looks like that's 2 separate operations that happen one after the other vs happening simultaneously?
 
Excepting the Dillon 1050 where you can do both at once

I was just observing on the depriming only side that a case for every stroke is faster than taking that case around the plate.......admittingly, that that only really affects the first four and the last four in a 550.

But using a separate case processing press frees you from having to have a special tool head for processing and your main press offline
 
The Dillon 600 can be hacked to auto eject the brass. I have both the RCBS bench mount and the Dillon and the Dillon is much faster than the RCBS. Once you get the rhythm it's very quick.
GW Staar said:
For that price and all you can do is deswage one at a time?

Lee APP Primer Swage Kit at Titan…..$36.25

-https://www.titanreloading.com/lee-precision-reloading-equipment/lee-presses/app-automatic-processing-press/lee-deluxe-app-pressprimer-swage-kit

Lee APP press w/ case feeder at Titan ….$75.29

https://www.titanreloading.com/lee-...press/lee-app-primer-pocket-swage-kit/lee-app

Total $111.54!

and you can process in twice the speed at least, and with a Dillon Collator never touch the brass. Plus do other useful things like deprime hundreds at a time first, so they can be swaged with the same tool and faster than taking each case around a progressive.

Admittedly the shuttle needs a little work to feed rifle right, but the fix is easy, and anybody smart enough to use a progressive can handle that in a half hour mod.

I know it isn't a Dillon, but have you priced a Dillon Processing Press? and do you have room for one?
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So you're saying deprime then swage? That's two passes on the same machine. The only things I bother to swage is 5.56, 300 BO and 7.62x51.

Life is too short to swage 9mm brass when I can pick up more at the range any time I go.
 
Texas10mm said:
The Dillon 600 can be hacked to auto eject the brass. I have both the RCBS bench mount and the Dillon and the Dillon is much faster than the RCBS. Once you get the rhythm it's very quick.

So you're saying deprime then swage? That's two passes on the same machine. The only things I bother to swage is 5.56, 300 BO and 7.62x51.

Life is too short to swage 9mm brass when I can pick up more at the range any time I go.
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Unless you have a 1050, is there another way? You're talking about a Dillon bench swager.....so do they deprime now too? Does it use a case feeder, now? I think no.

So, two passes is quite necessary to swage unless you are a 1050 owner. "on the same machine," you said? Yeah the same machine, case fed....unlike the bench swager.

Imagine feeding this with your Dillon case collator......

John Lee video

Or you can deprime the same way first (yes on the same case fed press) or deprime by taking your 550 or 650 off line.
 
Imagine feeding this with your Dillon case collator......
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If we figure out how to size that case as it’s being deprimed, trim it and swage it with a collet at the bottom of the stroke (opposite of a rifle FCD die) and trim it to length at the same time, imagine the number of Dillon machines we could afford.
 
jmorris said:
If we figure out how to size that case as it’s being deprimed, trim it and swage it with a collet at the bottom of the stroke (opposite of a rifle FCD die) and trim it to length at the same time, imagine the number of Dillon machines we could afford.
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Imagine how many Dillon companies you could buy......the JMorris FAAP (fully automatic ammo processor) has a good ring! But you need to add the polishing to a high luster/ annealing funtions to that single step too.

My only point to Puddlejumper was, "If you can't afford a 1050 and only have a 550 available....the Lee Automatic Processing press is a very cheap, wondrously efficient new tool with little added footprint to add to the bench, to process crimped brass and quickly ready it for tumbling and loading......way faster than using an RCBS or Dillon bench swager.

The first time I used the swager feature I wasn't impressed.....then I read the directions a bit more careful....it works if you set it up right. Then I processed 100 rounds of crimped .223 ....and hand primed each right after because I didn't trust it. They all primed smooth as a baby's but.....and I had to eat my first negative words on this forum on the tool, and it put my RCBS bench swager into mothballs.

We all use single stage presses for some operations.......but none before this one fed cases or processed them above and/or below the shellholder all for less than one can buy most presses that do nothing new since early single station presses.....and that's a game changer IMO. John Lee should have named it the Bottleneck Eraser, because it is. Is it perfect? Name me any tool ... even the wondrous 1050 that is........but I can say it's easy to make perfecter.;)
 
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GW Staar said:
My only point to Puddlejumper was, "If you can't afford a 1050 and only have a 550 available....the Lee Automatic Processing press is a very cheap, wondrously efficient new tool with little added footprint to add to the bench, to process crimped brass and quickly ready it for tumbling and loading......way faster than using an RCBS or Dillon bench swager.
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I think it is a great suggestion! I'll be getting one added to my setup as soon as I can. I just reamed-out 200 crimped .223 with a hand reamer, and while it wasn't a huge deal, I'd prefer not to do it again...
 
The only single stage I have automated was a Lee but it was for sizing.



However, with the Lee x-press shell holders.
https://leeprecision.com/x-press-shell-holders/

And a feed bell crank like my bullet sizer combined maybe a little of my decapping/sorting machine.



It could be reality, now just need enough people to buy them to make money vs loosing it, building them. :(
 
No. One more step required before introduction......make it idiot proof first.....that was RCBS's mistake on the Pro Chuckers. Didn't hurt the APP so much.....people expect and put up with imperfection from cheaper tools.
 
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