question about stepped on brass

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i will preface this by saying, i did use the search feature, but did not find anything close to my question, which will come up shortly.

i have a plan that by fall, i will most likely be buying the Dillon Square Deal B for 9 MM and .45 ACP.

in the meantime, i am saving up all my brass, and any other brass that i happen to sweep up, at the indoor range. (i have close to 1,000 rds, a mix of 9 MM & .45 ACP.)

this being said,...

"if i sweep up stepped on brass, and it is of course slightly bent inwards, either mine or others, will the press make it round again for reloading? "

thanks in advance to all that respond.
 
thanks guys. when i take home the swept up brass, i look at the name stamp, to see if it was mine, which i know will be first fired.

but depending on the lane that i use, sometimes, if near the entrance door, of course, people step on that brass, not intentionally. i do try to get to the very last lane, no traffic there of course.

i put aside any slightly bent cartridges i find, so now i know i can reload those.

i just did not want to toss them away, with out asking first.

thanks again.
 
Maybe, Maybe not. Depends on how deformed it is. Usually if I have brass that looks salvageable I can make it work. If the mouth is too deformed to enter the die you can squish it a little to try and reshape it.
 
I seen a post where a guy took five pieces of real bad dented and disfigured 223 brass and resized & reloaded it.
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After he shot them
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Target with these rounds at 100 yards.

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I pick up range brass and have three this bad so far, when I collect two more I will rasize them & load them and take five good once fired brass and resize them and load them.

Then I will shoot these & reload them and see how many loads these bad cases will do compaired to undamaged cases. I will match cases headstamd to head stamp.
I just picked up 25 pounds of range brass yesterday so I might have a couple pieces of squished brass to do this test.

Badly disfiqured brass will resize.
 
I keep a needle nose pliers on the bench for fixing pistol brass. Not one of the long type needle nose - the blunt type. Usually a couple tweaks on the edge where it's bent will get it roughly back to round. Doesn't need to be perfect, just round enough to feed nicely into the die. After that, the dies do a good job of 'fixing' the brass.
 
I keep a needle nose pliers on the bench for fixing pistol brass. Not one of the long type needle nose - the blunt type. Usually a couple tweaks on the edge where it's bent will get it roughly back to round. Doesn't need to be perfect, just round enough to feed nicely into the die. After that, the dies do a good job of 'fixing' the brass.
God only knows the selection of hand tools that i have..!!!
 
I keep a needle nose pliers on the bench for fixing pistol brass. Not one of the long type needle nose - the blunt type. Usually a couple tweaks on the edge where it's bent will get it roughly back to round. Doesn't need to be perfect, just round enough to feed nicely into the die. After that, the dies do a good job of 'fixing' the brass.
you gave me an idea though as well

if, i can manage to find some steel rods (or brass rods) that can fit into a cartridge, maybe mount that in my bench, slightly tap the cartridge onto it, with a rubber hammer?

then use the die when it comes time to resize ? so i do not damage the die?
 
I usually go ahead and give it a try. It won't hurt anything to try.

Reason it out. Chuck it directly into the recycle bin, versus try it, fail, and then chuck it in the recycling bin. What did the extra 15 seconds cost you ? About 1 of every 300 of your brass is going to get recycled for 1 of several reasons during each session anyway.

PS. You're going to love the Dillon.
 
I usually go ahead and give it a try. It won't hurt anything to try.

Reason it out. Chuck it directly into the recycle bin, versus try it, fail, and then chuck it in the recycling bin. What did the extra 15 seconds cost you ? About 1 of every 300 of your brass is going to get recycled for 1 of several reasons during each session anyway.

PS. You're going to love the Dillon.
thanks, yeah, the RSO and i chat it up a bit when i am done and got some time left on my lane.

he was the one that had recommend the Dillon Square Deal B, i looked it up, priced it all out.

i had been looking at the Lee Classic turrent as well

did you buy directly from Dillon or another place?
 
I straighten out what I can straighten out also with short nosed pliers. If I can get it to start in my resizing die I will run it through, what the resizing die doesn't get the neck sizing die will but I check them before I go any further, but if they have a crease in them I just crush them and pitch them so I don't get any ideas in the future of trying to use them.
Both are to common to try to compromise on.
 
I've had some deformed cases leave brass stuck to my carbide die. Took me about an hour to clean it out. As long as there are no sharp looking bends in the brass you should be fine.
 
If the dents or crushed sections have rounded "soft" corners then they can be used. If they have sharp creases, then I toss 'em as that area has weakened. But 9mm and 45 ACP brass is plentiful and if purchased, cheap so if in doubt, throw it out. I only pick up about half the 9mm brass I see on the ground but have a hard time passing up a 45 ACP case, regardless of what size primer it uses...
 
I used to trash the small primer 45 cases. One day I acquired about 100. Now I keep them and up to about 150. I haven't used any of them yet. I don't come across them very often but maybe when I get a few more I will try them out. My local range is picked over pretty good and about all I seem to find is 9mm.
 
I've run squished cases up into my expanding die to round out the mouth, then run it through the resizing die. Works more often than it doesn't. I've done the smooth jaw needle nose before. I feel the expander die does a better job.
 
In the spring of the year I will often find a few bullets that got stuck in the snow and look like new other than the rifling marks. I put one of these in my vise base down so that I can use it to partially reform crushed necks on botle necked rifle rounds so they fit the resizing die. Boattail works best. Also a handgun sizing die a size larger will start to straighten out an oblong neck if you already have them. I use 45 LC to pre shape my 45 ACP. Many ways to do things it seems if one is persistent.
 
another question, i went to the range today, with my new CZ 97B, shot off 110 rnds, (total) S&B 230 gr, and Winchester 230 gr.

i swept up the floor to get up as much of my brass as possible. the guy next to me had 9 MM and .45 ACP as well.

(i just checked all my fresh boxes of ammo that i took) and found that all of my .45 ACP has the large primers

i must have swept up some of the other guys .45 ACP, which those primers are smaller

**pics at the bottom.

i have already separated those smaller primers from my larger ones.

but now, i have to go thru like 300 more or so, of brass, as in the past, i swept up all i could see.

question(s) do you guys reload ALL the .45 ACP you get, small and large primers?

i will be reloading 9MM, which you know that has small

is it worth reloading the smaller primer .45 ACP..??


my RSO says he tosses away any small primer .45 ACP he sweeps. as it ain't worth his time to separate, etc.

also, when i do go and buy a press,and get the 45 dies, would it be true, that i'd need to also get a smaller de-primer for the .45?

thanks in advance.


problem posting pics, of the brass.

here however is a pic of one target, 8 yards, 20 rnds.

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I just set the SP 45acp a side for if the day ever comes up I run out of LP. Or load them when you know you can't pickup your brass. You will loose ~20-25fps with the SP.
 
I just set the SP 45acp a side for if the day ever comes up I run out of LP. Or load them when you know you can't pickup your brass. You will loose ~20-25fps with the SP.
ok, i will set aside the smaller primer brass. i'd hate to waste it though, like the RSO said he does.

thanks
 
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