Nightstand Pistol

Status
Not open for further replies.
el Godfather

el Godfather

Member
Joined
Feb 4, 2012
Messages
1,847
Hi
If you could own a Machine Pistol, would you choose that as your nightstand pistol or stick with the semi auto?

I understand that many people have reservations with machine pistols (MP). However, after owning a couple and practice shooting them, I can see their obvious advantages for high capacity and controlled burst options. Specifically talking about the Glock 18 and the CZ 75 Auto.

That said, the options are quite limited. Whereas, in semiautomatic pistols you can have your pick. Remember there is no compulsion to always use MP on fully automatic mode. You can use it on semi and only switch to automatic when and where required.

My top contenders in semiautomatic for nightstand are Sig Sauer P226, HK p30 and Mark 23 (for its reliability, control-ability and suppressor where possible). Many people dismiss Mk23 as a novelty gun BUT it is far from it. If you have owned it (not just handled or used it occasionally on range) and used it you will most likely agree with me when I say it is a very smooth shooter with super durability and yes it can also take 45 supers- especially resting on the night stand it is nothing to be ignored. My only issue with it is the HK proprietary laser etc. ridiculous!

Thoughts?
 
My MP5 filled that roll for along time. These days, its usually one of my AR "pistols". The HK became WAY to valuable to risk losing if I had to use it.

Of course, my Glock 17 is always in its holster, in my pants, laying on a chair next to my bed. So if Im putting my pants on, its coming too. :)
 
There are other members in my household that I love. My choice of night stand gun is more influenced by the possibility of collateral damage than knock down power or spray and pray.

I chose an XD mod 2 in 45acp with 230gr gold dots loaded to an average level.
 
MikeInOr said:
There are other members in my household that I love. My choice of night stand gun is more influenced by the possibility of collateral damage than knock down power or spray and pray.
Click to expand...

I'm not even worried about that. I was taught how to stitch hostile targets partially hidden by hostage targets with an MP5SD3. (Which would be the only SMG I'd possibly consider for that) I just wouldn't want to lose a substantial investment for a long time, if not forever, when I can do the job with other less expensive guns. I'd miss my Ithaca 37, but I have about $200 in it.
 
entropy said:
I'm not even worried about that. I was taught how to stitch hostile targets partially hidden by hostage targets with an MP5SD3. (Which would be the only SMG I'd possibly consider for that) I just wouldn't want to lose a substantial investment for a long time, if not forever, when I can do the job with other less expensive guns. I'd miss my Ithaca 37, but I have about $200 in it.
Click to expand...

My life us worth more than any gun I own. With that said I wouldn't choose a full auto for a night stand gun.
 
I've got a stock, full-size Beretta PX4 in .45 with 3 mags in the nightstand. That seems perfectly adequate for the way my house is laid out. "Stopping power" is good, size is handy, plenty of bullets if I need 'em (narrow hall to the bedroom, only can come down it 1 at a time), and I don't worry about what some lawyer is going to say in court when he holds up the "assault rife" I used 'cause I was war-like and trigger happy and vicious, etc.
 
We went away from full-auto on duty several years ago when the spectre of prison time and massive personal liability for errant shots striking an unintended person far outweighed the potential benefits of full-auto. All of our M-4's have been converted to semi-only now, and the Mp5's and Mp5k (My personal fav) have been limited to semi-auto on the selectors rather than 3-round-burst or full auto.

They're really fun range toys for sure, but for HD/SD I'll take more control over my rounds vs. firing ten shots a second (15 for the Mp5k!). My G-34 fills my nightstand gun role nicely.

Stay safe.
 
Long ago in Nam learned that the amity to rapid fire was only good to lay down cover fire. I learned that the ability to quickly sight the target(s) and hit them was not dependent on rapid fire. I learned that it was dependent upon only being well trained in the basics of CQB. In reality the victor in a gun fight will either be the lucky one or the one who is sufficiently trained to sustain fire discipline and put bullets on target. One bullet on target is worth a hundred sprayed at an aggressor. T/here is no substitute for what I learned in boot camp: “One shot — one kill”.
 
el Godfather said:
You do realize that:
1. Machine pistols have a selector switch and you can use it on semi.
2. The concept of control bursts.
3. There is no such drill as spray and pray except in movies and folks with MPs do not do this.
Click to expand...
You have to remember MANY have never actually been able to fire a full auto. MANY have all kinds of "ideas" of what they are like from what they have been told and or see on the screen. It is often quite fun to see a newbie get to try a full auto in pistol caliber the first time. MANY of them are shocked at just how good they can be in very short order when trying short bursts. With any of the smaller guns that you can shoulder in a pistol round anyone who can shoot can quickly learn to make VERY good hits with short bursts. Problem of course is many shooters go their entire life and never get to actually try. :cool:
 
Last edited:
Alex Clayton said:
You have to remember MANY have never actually been able to fire a full auto. MANY have all kinds of "ideas" of what they are like from what they have been told and or see on the screen. It is often quite fun to see a newbie get to try a full auto in pistol caliber the first time. MANY of them are shocked at just how good they can be in very short order when trying short bursts. With any of the smaller guns that you can shoulder in a pistol round anyone who can shoot can quickly learn to make VERY good hits with short bursts. Problem of course is many shooters go their entire life and never get to actually try. :cool:
Click to expand...
Well said, and exactly on point. :thumbup:
 
I would be too nervous about where the bullets would end up. I live with my wife, two large dogs, and two large teenagers.

For HD duties I prefer a shotgun or a normal handgun.
 
Tallball said:
I would be too nervous about where the bullets would end up. I live with my wife, two large dogs, and two large teenagers.

For HD duties I prefer a shotgun or a normal handgun.
Click to expand...
The rounds would go where you were aiming. Just like anything else.

Something like a 9mm SMG is a lot easier for "everyone" to shoot too, unlike a 12ga. or even a handgun.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

T
Replacing/upgrading nightstand pistol
2 3
Replies
53
Views
2K
halfmoonclip
H
J
  • Locked
SIG P2022?
2 3
Replies
61
Views
2K
Tallball
Tallball
D
  • Locked
  • Poll
Nightstand gun: SIG P220R or SW/Para 1911?
2
Replies
29
Views
1K
SwampWolf
S
P
  • Locked
VIDEO: Shooting the World's Largest .45ACP Semi-Auto Handgun
Replies
3
Views
432
PTMCCAIN
P
D
  • Locked
HK all the way
2
Replies
31
Views
2K
Pilot
P
Back
Top